Aztec, I haven't licked any eyeballs either. One more goal to work towards!!!
Walter
Edited to say - Here's where we find out who the really FUN people are!!!
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my score was 78.. http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/helltest.swf .
happyout
Aztec, I haven't licked any eyeballs either. One more goal to work towards!!!
Walter
Edited to say - Here's where we find out who the really FUN people are!!!
perhaps you have noticed this trend as well, that apostofests are now frequently being combined with other activities of a recreational nature.
for example, the upcoming florida apostofest will have a halloween party and the next day a barbeque.
i?ve seen several other vacation ideas planned around apostofests in the past that run from having fun on gambling boats to touring las vegas.
I'm planning a camping apostafest for next summer in Ontario. And the haunted house idea sounds like alot of fun. On Halloween perhaps?
Since many of us don't observe religious holidays for the sake of religion, I think we should lobby our State/Provincial governments to allow X-JW's an annual paid holiday to celebrate our liberation from oppression. This holiday could fall on the same weekend each year, making it more convenient for as many as possible to attend this annual aposto-megafest.
We could sin with greater efficiency if all were able to attend.
Walter
Ontario District Overbeer
what does it take to become a circuit overseer?.
the watchtower bible track society relies very heavily upon these men to make sure that they have a tight grip on each congregation.. the structure for control that the wt.
has in place needs it's eyes and ears to find out whether or not a congregation is following all the rules that the wt has laid out for it.
A lot of this:
if someone spoke about how witnesses don't accept medical treatment or do not believe in doctors, would you correct those comments?
if someone posted that jw's are just av bunch of child molesters, would you feel impelled to clarify the statement?
I would correct misinformation. There's no need to promote lies about them. The truth about them is bad enough, and I'm not going to destroy my own credibility by promoting misinformation about them.
Walter
just wondering why you choose not to use too many identifying facts about yourself on the boards?
is it to protect yourself, or others?.
for me, i have nothing to lose where the dubs are concerned, and initially my profile was pretty extensive.
I'm not anonymous on this board. I've posted plenty of personal info about myself.
Walter
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my score was 78.. http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/helltest.swf .
happyout
I scored 224!!! I'm going straight to hell!!!
Walter
say what you want about middle eastern law but at least with this one i belive they are on the right track for an admitted child rapist/molester.iranian court hands 8 death sentences, 173 lashes to serial child rapist.
by ali akbar dareini.
tehran (ap) - an iranian court has sentenced a serial child rapist to eight death sentences and 173 lashes, the judge in charge of the case said thursday.
Public hanging? Sure, bring the kids, buy popcorn and cotton candy. Make a family day of it!
How the hell are they gonna hang him 8 times without decapitating him?
Too bad we can't send them the society's pedophiles! Could be interesting.
Walter
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hell... it worked for tink so i though i would try my own request!
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Aren't we all?
Walter
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my score was 78.. http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/helltest.swf .
happyout
I'm there now, and it kicks ass compared to the Kingdumb Hall.
Walter
btw - Somethings wrong with the link.
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i am getting ready to write an article on ?growing old in the spiritual paradise?
and would like your input if you can!
Ok, I'll answer a few of these areas here:
1. The passing of the "high" once you are baptized and have to tow the line (beginning of disappointment). Includes the initial "awe" of the organization compared to realizing there is nothing awesome about it eventually.
My "high" started to fade the day I was baptized. There were 6 of us from my hall that were baptized at the same time, and there was a party for them that evening. Unfortunately, only 5 of the 6 were invited. I wasn't. I began to see then that there was an intense popularity contest in the congregation; one that I just could not get interested in. Then there were all the assignments in the congregation, but progress in the congregation was not necessarily tied to one's performance in their assignments. Once again, it was a popularity contest. It was very difficult for a man to make "progress" in the congregation if he had no relatives who were elders. In many ways, the organization seems like an MLM company.
3. The cynicism from realizing that you have been lied to, and what can you do about it? What gradually happens inside you?
I felt something was wrong for a long time because of the hypocrisy, double standards, and general lack of love. I had some doctrinal concerns as well, but put those on the back burner, and I waited on Jehovah, as we're told to do. The turning point for me was when I became aware of the child abuse cases, and the society's policies with regard to this issue. I began to do some research on the society, it's history, it's own literature, and cults in general, and realized that I was lied to and manipulated for the last 20 years. I became so angry at the deception that I became physically ill. I eventually began to communicate with Ex-Jehovah?s witnesses on Internet discussion boards, and this played a great part in helping me get over my anger. I'm happy to say I've made some close friends here.
4. The health issues, insurance, and money problems tied to the belief system.
We experienced health and financial problems while pioneering. Congregation members often said to us that we must be "grieving Jehovah?s holy spirit" or these things wouldn't be happening to us. We lost our apartment and had to move in with my mother for a while, after I had an injury, and at the same time a "brother" refused to pay a $3,000 debt to me. Of course,
"Brothers" are not allowed to take "brothers" to court, and the elders refused to even hear about the issue.
6. Putting off of marriage and children.
I got married, but to someone who turned out to be incompatible in so many ways. We had no children, thinking we'd have plenty of opportunity in the "new system". We put other marital problems on the back burner as well, thinking these would be cured by the "new system". We should never have gotten married, and now it's on the verge of ending.
Walter