Posts by shamus

It was like a father who grabs a young son who is misbehaving. I couldn't believe this guy had the nerve. Another elder must have seen the look on my face (though I tried to pass it off as not bothering me) and realized that I didn't like the encroachment on my personal space

Exactly. I wrote of this experience before, and Avashi told me I should have charged him with assult. Knowing what I know now, I should have decked him right then and there.

What is highlighted is exactly how I felt. I was very VERY upset after it happened. My face was beet red.

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Deceptive Reasoning and Jehovahs Witnesses. Is It Lying?

by shamus in

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is deceptive reasoning lying?

a good example is how they answer questions.

q: is everyone who is not a jehovahs witness bird food going to die at armageddon?

shamus

Is deceptive reasoning lying?

A good example is how they answer questions.

Q: Is everyone who is not a Jehovahs Witness ~~bird food~~ going to die at armageddon?

A: Many people who were not Jehovahs Witnesses who ~~didn't know any better~~ in early times will no doubt be resurrected. (then they go on, bla bla bla)

There are hundreds more examples of tough questions, and deceptive answers. Feel free to add, but my question is, is deceptive reasoning lying? If so, is it possible to prove this?

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POST YOUR REALLY HARD JW QUESTIONS HERE SO I CAN CALL BRANCH

by tresbella in

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i plan to call up the branch office and pose as an 'interested one' and ask a bunch of difficult questions i am almost positive no jw witness will be able to ansewr.

1. if the supposed "light is getting brighter" then does that not mean that it is possile that many of the teachings that the society is teaching now may be false such as blood transfusions and the 1914 teaching?

2. since any witness who speaks against the wt and refutes one of their teachings and is therefore disfellowshipped for it, what if the very teaching that they spoke against turned out to be wrong later on?

shamus

The problem is they get calls like that all the time. It's okay to do it, just to let you know that it's nothing new to them.

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I finally got a new computer,,,,I missed replying to ya'll

by LyinEyes in

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my old computer finally expired last night,,,,much to my delight.

i didn't even have to throw it out the window, it .

just refused to cooperate any longer.

shamus

Hi Dede!

Nice to see that you are well. I did miss you, and am glad that everything is ok.

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Does any one know what C T Russell died from??

by frankiespeakin in

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i know the wt has said why knorr and rutherford died but not russell.

this omission seems somewhat strange, being that he was so prominant his followers would naturally be curious as to the cause of death of their beloved leader.

here is a clip from 1916 12/1/1916 wt concerning his death no mention of what caused it.. http://www.ctrussell.us/.

shamus

Delusions.

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Good Grief!!!!!!!!!

by qwerty in

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http://www.jw-media.org/edu_videos/psa4eisdn.htm

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I wonder how this 'award' was awarded to this organization. Major vomit alert. You aren't even supposed to have the internet, if you're a good dubbie, so what are they saying here?

Trying to trick people in 'the world' is all they're doing.

Major vomit alert.

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Challenge for the JWs --- mwahahaha!

by ESTEE in

i have a cousin who challenged the jws.

her conversation went something like this:.

"knock knock".

shamus

Walter,

Just what I would have done. I know those elder types... well. I stood up for myself on several occasions to they're 'judgments'.

I bet that shook things up, LOL!

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ELDER MEETING NIGHTMARES!!!!!

by tresbella in

ahhh!

those dreaded elders meetings!

was it something as serious as someone heard from bro.

shamus

Looking back on it, it's hard to believe that I ever let them have that much control over me. Well, maybe I didn't them have that much control. I still owned a 2 door car, I listened to the Beatles, I still wore my wild ties and their intrusion on my life eventually pushed me out. Thanks elder guys!

That's about the way that I was. Thanks for not being the only one!

I once got counselled for being a skinhead. You see, I had a buzz cut in the early 90's, and we wouldn't want to be a skinhead or anything... My response to the elder? My barber is black. (not politically correct these days, no, I'm not a racist), which was 100 percent true. I told him to go ask him if he thought that I was a skinhead.

I still kept my hair short. My sentence? Not carrying a microphone. I took not carrying the microphone. When people are full of bullshit, I tended to get millitaristic in my beliefs.

The elders never liked me. I didn't care.

One time the entire body of elders got a little talking to, because I just moved to a congo, and did not know which month they were missing (reporting time). I asked and asked, and the guy never got back to me. Turns out, I got turned down for aux. pio, because I was 'irregular'. The C.O. came to town, and I worked in service with him one day. He asked me why I wasn't aux. pioneering, and I told him why. He cleared the air, and rumour was they got reemed out good.

The next meeting, elder asshole comes up to me, squeeses my arm hard, and says "you really need to get your time in!". I ripped my arm away, and said "I tried".

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Challenge for the JWs --- mwahahaha!

by ESTEE in

i have a cousin who challenged the jws.

her conversation went something like this:.

"knock knock".

shamus

I would tell them that a friend of mine got disfellowshipped for reporting sexual abuse to the authorites. Thank them for coming by, then tell them goodbye, kindly. No need for reaming out... they are people who are blinded, either by circumstance or choice. People change over time.

End of conversation.