Posts by Daniel1555

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I told the elders that I would take blood and donate blood

by Daniel1555 in

i found it important to be honest with my wife.

so i told her about my conscience decision that in a medical urgency i want blodless medicine but if a transfusion of blood or the 4 prohibited components is necessary to save my life or health i would accept it.

this would apply especially also for our child (that is not such a problem as in our country the wts recommends to comply with doctors as they have the right to decide concerning minors).. i showed her the reasons why i came to that conscience decision (biblical and logical reasons) and that jehovah and jesus do not like anyone to die because of this wrong bible application.. .

Daniel1555

Syme: thanks for warning me especially of the 2 witness rule. I didn't really think about thsz

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I told the elders that I would take blood and donate blood

by Daniel1555 in

i found it important to be honest with my wife.

so i told her about my conscience decision that in a medical urgency i want blodless medicine but if a transfusion of blood or the 4 prohibited components is necessary to save my life or health i would accept it.

this would apply especially also for our child (that is not such a problem as in our country the wts recommends to comply with doctors as they have the right to decide concerning minors).. i showed her the reasons why i came to that conscience decision (biblical and logical reasons) and that jehovah and jesus do not like anyone to die because of this wrong bible application.. .

Daniel1555

Problemaddict: Thanks for your points. I wrote them everything you mentioned plus some more reasons. thanks for your care.

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Transfusion Experience from France

by Bells in

long story short - my in-laws know that i strongly disagree with their blood doctrine.

i received 3rd degree burns as a toddler and without blood, i would have died.

no doubt this is much of the reason that i feel the way i do.. my mil sent me an article, saying that i might find it of interest - in other words, it is an example to 'refute my contradictions about blood transfusions'.

Daniel1555

Bonjour bells

Bloodless medicine is of course recommendable. Most hospitals in Switzerland use alternatives to blood. But of course there are situations where alternatives won't work and only infusions of blood or the components forbidden by wt are saving the life or health of the patient.

Many witnesses believe that it is only because of jw's that there is bloodless medicine. They don't realize that praise for that does not belong to the jw but to the medical community who was searching for ways to save lives, even those who would be ready to sacrifice it for a mistaken doctrine.

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Watchtower schools--why the consolidation?

by wannaexit in

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first there was the ministerial training school ( mts), then changed to the school for single brothers.

most recently the school for christian couples (replacing gilead).

all of a sudden news comes out the all these schools are consolidated under one umbrella: the evangelizing school --open to single brothers, single sisters, married couples all the way up to 65 years of age.. i wonder as to the motive behind all these changes this year..

Daniel1555

It's to give the sisters the impression that the wtbs is caring for them.

Moreover they might think that zealous sisters and brothers will marry, pioneer together and bring a lot of worldly people into "the truth", of course all at their own cost.

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Letter I wrote to the person the caused me to be disfellowshipped

by jwfacts in

a thread on another forum reminded me of a letter i wrote to the person that went to the elders and started the proceedings to have me disfellowshipped.

i stopped believing in the religion when i was 25 but continued going for about ten years.

i finally started to fade at 35, but about 6 months after i had stopped going to meetings, a person wrote a letter to the elders about my website, which at the time was anonymous.

Daniel1555

Very good letter and especially not angry or bitter.

I had a lot of doubts for years but your site gave me the strength not to bury them but to resolve them.

Thank you

Daniel

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I told the elders that I would take blood and donate blood

by Daniel1555 in

i found it important to be honest with my wife.

so i told her about my conscience decision that in a medical urgency i want blodless medicine but if a transfusion of blood or the 4 prohibited components is necessary to save my life or health i would accept it.

this would apply especially also for our child (that is not such a problem as in our country the wts recommends to comply with doctors as they have the right to decide concerning minors).. i showed her the reasons why i came to that conscience decision (biblical and logical reasons) and that jehovah and jesus do not like anyone to die because of this wrong bible application.. .

Daniel1555

Jwfacts Paul: The notes about you by the CO are very interesting. Shocking that they wanted to meet with you just that you might say something about whivh they could get you. Thanks for the insight.

Mauiboy: If they want me in a jc they have to telk me beforehand that it's a jc meeting. For me it is not scary to talk to 2 elders as they usuallycome by 2 and we had several discussions already about doubts even about the topic that I don't believe the gb is spirit directed.

Shopaholic: thanks for your interesting comment

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I told the elders that I would take blood and donate blood

by Daniel1555 in

i found it important to be honest with my wife.

so i told her about my conscience decision that in a medical urgency i want blodless medicine but if a transfusion of blood or the 4 prohibited components is necessary to save my life or health i would accept it.

this would apply especially also for our child (that is not such a problem as in our country the wts recommends to comply with doctors as they have the right to decide concerning minors).. i showed her the reasons why i came to that conscience decision (biblical and logical reasons) and that jehovah and jesus do not like anyone to die because of this wrong bible application.. .

Daniel1555

Jwfacts: well I really got a lot information from your site. One question. Why is it that they df if you say that you don't believe the fds is god's channel?

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I told the elders that I would take blood and donate blood

by Daniel1555 in

i found it important to be honest with my wife.

so i told her about my conscience decision that in a medical urgency i want blodless medicine but if a transfusion of blood or the 4 prohibited components is necessary to save my life or health i would accept it.

this would apply especially also for our child (that is not such a problem as in our country the wts recommends to comply with doctors as they have the right to decide concerning minors).. i showed her the reasons why i came to that conscience decision (biblical and logical reasons) and that jehovah and jesus do not like anyone to die because of this wrong bible application.. .

Daniel1555

Hey robert abiblestudent: I won't let them help me refuse it. My conscience is clear on this matter. Peace to you and your loved ones too.

Narcissic Supply: I know it's none of their business. But my wife is the boss... Anyway I do not fear them at all.

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I told the elders that I would take blood and donate blood

by Daniel1555 in

i found it important to be honest with my wife.

so i told her about my conscience decision that in a medical urgency i want blodless medicine but if a transfusion of blood or the 4 prohibited components is necessary to save my life or health i would accept it.

this would apply especially also for our child (that is not such a problem as in our country the wts recommends to comply with doctors as they have the right to decide concerning minors).. i showed her the reasons why i came to that conscience decision (biblical and logical reasons) and that jehovah and jesus do not like anyone to die because of this wrong bible application.. .

Daniel1555

Eyeus2badub: you have a smart wife

Captain Blithering: thanks for your wishes. I wish you the best too. It for sure needs a lot of courage to tell it to someone you love but who is a prisoner of mind control. I told the same the same concerning blood to my parents who are each about 50 years in the "truth." At least they changed their mind about blood.

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I told the elders that I would take blood and donate blood

by Daniel1555 in

i found it important to be honest with my wife.

so i told her about my conscience decision that in a medical urgency i want blodless medicine but if a transfusion of blood or the 4 prohibited components is necessary to save my life or health i would accept it.

this would apply especially also for our child (that is not such a problem as in our country the wts recommends to comply with doctors as they have the right to decide concerning minors).. i showed her the reasons why i came to that conscience decision (biblical and logical reasons) and that jehovah and jesus do not like anyone to die because of this wrong bible application.. .

Daniel1555

hanks for your answers so far.

Of course I will keep you informed how that talk goes.

In my congregation the elders are quite loving. They know that I had doubts about different other topics (thats why I stepped back as an elder 3 years ago. But I will not compromise on this.

Mark mysfcf

Are you also from switzerland? I hope it is all well between you and your wife as you stopped so abruptly with the meetings.

Datadog you have a pm