This strange admonition given to JW's has always interested me. I grew up in the late 80's and very much remember hearing the advice to not have children when I was a child. I didn't realize the brainwashing effect at the time, but in my 20's I felt that having children was something I could do "in the new system" What a joke. I'm so grateful to be out and to be a mother. I grew up surrounded by so many young people, mostly sisters who are now spinsters in every sense of the word, never married (or dated even) and agonizingly childless. It's heartbreaking really. From what I hear from still-in family, the emotional toll this has taken is tremendous. To say that these women are depressed is an understatement. Every one of them is on some kind of medication. Awful.
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Want to read a surprising comment/complaint posted on my website about JW's encouraged not to have kids. Who would have thought!
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://watchtowerdocuments.org/did-you-know-having-children/#comment-474.
here's the short article found in the "did you know?
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Old Relative Not Happy About Push To Use Ipads Etc
by disillusioned 2 ini was in a close relatives house yesterday and she was having angry and resentful at the push to use electronic devices at the meetings.
she was talking to another relative of mine who has just got an ipad to use.
this relative of mine is very elderly and obviously prefers to use her bible and other books.
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My mom is 67 years old and is happily using her Ipad for all her studying. What cracks me up is how adamantly she would refuse to use technology for years but as soon at the GB pressured/commanded/sanctioned (whatever you choose to call it) their use, she was on board! She doesn't even realize how her life and any choices are not in her hands. Its disturbing to say the least. I couldn't convince this lady to attend my wedding or have a meaningful relationship with her grandchildren, but the GB can pretty much talk her into anything. SMH
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Single Sisters
by BashfulAshG inam i the only one who has single, desperate sisters in the congregation?
they tend to be holier-than-thou, frumpty, but in private talk about getting married.
but they don't understand why no brother will look at them.
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Yes for sure, I think every congregation has at least one, if not several. The congo I grew up in, is no exception. There are a handful who are still there, unmarried and "waiting" for Jehovah to answer their prayers to find someone that meets their ridiculous standards. And not to be a jerk, but the years have not been kind to them. Matronly dressers who put very little effort into their appearance. The ones that I know, are also quite immature and stunted due to being socially isolated all their lives. Sad. -
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Has there been a recent WT on not socializing with non active JW family?
by ThunderStruck52 inhey guys, i'm not able to check this site as often as i'd like with two small kiddos to run after.
just wondering if there has been any strongly worded wt study or direction recently about not associating or socializing with inactive jw family?
i'm not disfellowshipped but its almost like im getting the shunning treatment from my mom in the last 2 months.
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Thanks Caleb :-)
Steve2, Dad and mom still married - did i just blow your mind? hahaha Yeah who knows how, but Mom has been a JW since 1973 (funny) and Dad never did buy into it. Still together somehow.
Thanks for your replys.
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Has there been a recent WT on not socializing with non active JW family?
by ThunderStruck52 inhey guys, i'm not able to check this site as often as i'd like with two small kiddos to run after.
just wondering if there has been any strongly worded wt study or direction recently about not associating or socializing with inactive jw family?
i'm not disfellowshipped but its almost like im getting the shunning treatment from my mom in the last 2 months.
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DOC: all heads still intact. Yeah I realize they are reminded quite frequently of the danger of associating with us "inactive" and spiritually weak ones. Thanks for your two cents! You guys are right on, as usual.
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Has there been a recent WT on not socializing with non active JW family?
by ThunderStruck52 inhey guys, i'm not able to check this site as often as i'd like with two small kiddos to run after.
just wondering if there has been any strongly worded wt study or direction recently about not associating or socializing with inactive jw family?
i'm not disfellowshipped but its almost like im getting the shunning treatment from my mom in the last 2 months.
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Hey guys, I'm not able to check this site as often as I'd like with two small kiddos to run after. Just wondering if there has been any strongly worded WT study or direction recently about not associating or socializing with inactive JW family? I'm not disfellowshipped but its almost like Im getting the shunning treatment from my mom in the last 2 months. She doesnt call me anymore or initiate contact. She will talk on the phone pleasantly enough if I call her, but thats about it. She used to visit me and her grandkids but now, all I hear is crickets. Did I miss something? Of course it doesnt help that I sent my non-JW dad a Fathers Day card and took him out for his birthday this year for the first time :-) I figure he has suffered quite enough all these years. Thanks for any input, I appreciate it!!
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What allows parents to shun their children ?
by man in black inmy son, went to college and got his bachelors degree.
he started his own anmation company about two years ago, and it really has taken off.. while my wife and i were witnesses, we both received grief about allowing our son to go to college, but we stood up for him and backed his decision to attend 110%.. anyway, this past week he finally closed on a very nice, neat condiminium .. and while he is getting ready to move out on his own, i have quite a few feelings of sadness,as a parent, seeing him move on is kinda rough, but realizing that this is a very good thing for him makes it easier.
he will only be about 7 miles away.
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Does anyone ever notice how some of these "by the book" JW parents will downplay or never admit that they shun their own children to their worldly relatives or colleagues or whatever? I think they do recognize on some level how unnatural/unhealthy the practice is, but not enought to stop themselves from doing it.
This happened when my mother and sister refused to attend my wedding (Im not DF'd by the way, I was marrying "out of the truth"). Other relatives where like WTF? and they were ashamed about it a little bit and didnt even attempt to explain it. Weird.
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Meeting others????
by DATA-DOG inare you like me, afraid of meeting up with faders and ex-jws??
i am afraid to be ratted out.
the only person that i have ever personally spoke to is raypublisher, well on the phone ans skype.
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Ditto Leaving...I'm also on west coast. It would be nice to meet and talk with others :-)
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Does Anyone Feel the Ministerial School Helped Them?
by Band on the Run inas a born-in, i was eager to join the ministry school.
my cousins were also born-in but lived in different states.
there was keen competition to see who could do mature things, such as baptism (my mom said when i was 35) and ministry school.
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I was extremely shy and introverted as a kid, so the whole experience was anxiety ridden from the moment they handed me an assignment slip. I started like most girls as a householder, usually with your Mom. It was always weird to be assigned a partner that you never really talked to like a 75 year old sister and have to go to their home and practice, etc. Oh well it was nice enough once you did get to know them on a personal level, I guess. Other than that, I hated it pretty much and would worry about it until it was over. The material was so repetitive and the previous poster is right about nobody really remembering any of these "talks" or paying much mind to them in general. A lot of people will make it a point to compliment you on the talk afterwards but this is the only positive reinforcement/encouragement you can expect as a JW.
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Born-in memories, etc this is my first post, guys ;-)
by ThunderStruck52 inso i have decided to jump in and for the first time and share some of my random memories that seem to have been floating around my mind more and more lately.
mostly if all the weird anxiety i experience from time to time is related to it.
i guess that would be a different topic to post!.
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@Humbled: mom still in and always will be. Dad never a jw but they are still together. Guess you can see who wore the pants in the fam, eh?
@lois: The deciding moment or event per se came when I realized I could never shun my own children the way my sister was going to once her daughter was df'd. That was a few years ago, before then I was just another inactive jw not really planning on going back but I'd never go to the dark side hahaha. Well that ship has sailed and I'm glad I figured it out.
thanks all for the kind and encouraging posts. I'm finding this all to be nicely therapuetic!