Loyalty conjures up a three part symposium on apostates.
Will Korah, Dathan and Abiram get a mention?
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Has anyone noticed the JW movies are trying to normalise their lifestyle?
by truthseeker inhaving watched the prodigal son returns movie produced by the organization and a recent mini-clip of a brother in london who is shown jogging and doing normal everyday things while wanting to "reach out" it occurred to me that the organization is trying to normalize their bizarre lifestyle and beliefs for the benefit of non-witnesses.. what do i mean by normalization?
they try to make the witnesses look like just another christian denomination who are reasonable while their members live and enjoy normal lives that appear to be within the mainstream.. they do this by not mentioning anything to do with higher education, armageddon or the urgency of the end of the world nor is their discussion or mention of the blood issue.
these are things mentioned often at kingdom halls and in study articles.. watching the prodigal son returns, the family appears to live a normal life, going to meetings and studying.
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Having watched The Prodigal Son Returns movie produced by the organization and a recent mini-clip of a brother in London who is shown jogging and doing normal everyday things while wanting to "reach out" it occurred to me that the organization is trying to normalize their bizarre lifestyle and beliefs for the benefit of non-witnesses.
What do I mean by normalization? They try to make the Witnesses look like just another Christian denomination who are reasonable while their members live and enjoy normal lives that appear to be within the mainstream.
They do this by not mentioning anything to do with higher education, Armageddon or the urgency of the end of the world nor is their discussion or mention of the blood issue. These are things mentioned often at Kingdom Halls and in study articles.
Watching the Prodigal Son returns, the family appears to live a normal life, going to meetings and studying. There is no mention of the discipline given to Matthew, the son who lived a debauched life. It's as if they are trying to minimize their wacky beliefs by omitting them from the story.In the other movie clip, they show a young brother going through his normal routine, jogging, working out etc while another brother encourages him to reach out.
I wonder if this is damage control?
Perhaps they are trying to change hearts and minds by trying to make the witnesses seem reasonable, everyday people who study the Bible and talk to others about it?
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Has anyone seen "The Prodigal Son Returns" on JW.TV? A Masterpiece of indoctrination
by truthseeker ini'm watching the jw movie the prodigal son returns.. it is a masterpiece of indoctination and what i would call a "cult" classic.. it's about two brothers who work for their father's construction firm.
the older one is the most spiritual and the younger one isn't.
he befriends al, a weak brother, who persuades him to take a job in the city and move there.. it shows the "world" in the worst possible light.
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Seriously....We have to start attacking this cult!!! Enough is enough!!
by DATA-DOG ini propose that we make pintrest accounts and start openly challenging this crap.. .
seriously.... any suggestions?
this crap cannot be left unchallenged.
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Data-dog,
Your post gives a whole new meaning to "The Game of Life"
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Has anyone seen "The Prodigal Son Returns" on JW.TV? A Masterpiece of indoctrination
by truthseeker ini'm watching the jw movie the prodigal son returns.. it is a masterpiece of indoctination and what i would call a "cult" classic.. it's about two brothers who work for their father's construction firm.
the older one is the most spiritual and the younger one isn't.
he befriends al, a weak brother, who persuades him to take a job in the city and move there.. it shows the "world" in the worst possible light.
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I'm watching the JW movie The Prodigal Son Returns.
It is a masterpiece of indoctination and what I would call a "cult" classic.
It's about two brothers who work for their father's construction firm. The older one is the most spiritual and the younger one isn't. He befriends Al, a weak brother, who persuades him to take a job in the city and move there.
It shows the "world" in the worst possible light. Granted (I hate that word), some of what happens does happen in real life but it's not always the case.
What's laughable is that the father tells his son he's noticed he doesn't underline his Watchtower anymore.
Movie is here if you feel so inclined...http://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODMovies/pub-ivpro_1_VIDEO
There movies are getting slick. They know exactly what message to give. They are masters at deception and indoctrination. Never forget that.
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Generation Teaching Hall of Shame chart
by truthseeker inthis is a much simpler chart and replaces the old one which was getting too difficult to maintain.. direct link: http://oi68.tinypic.com/voy2qs.jpg.
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This is a much simpler chart and replaces the old one which was getting too difficult to maintain.
Direct link: http://oi68.tinypic.com/voy2qs.jpg
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Judge questions whether confession privilege should extend to Jehovah's Witnesses
by GodZoo ina us judge is considering whether it is constitutional to have a law that protects the clergy of just one religious denomination from disclosing what is said to them in confession.
(including what's said in judicial confessions by peodophiles.
)http://www.christiantoday.com/article/judge.questions.whether.confession.privilege.should.extend.to.jehovahs.witnesses/70169.htm
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They should not give JWs this privilege.
Fact is, you don't just tell one Jehovah's Witness elder, you tell three of them, and then they send a report to Bethel.
So where is the Clergy/penitent privilege when at least three elders know of someone's sin?
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London Bethelites Living on Their Nerves?
by The Searcher injust got home and received information from a source regarding london bethel: .
a bethel couple told my source that they are getting rid of about 20/25 bethelites every week and that if they are to go, they will get called in on a friday and given their leaving date.everyone is "on edge" and hoping that if they get the boot, they've got time to make alternative plans.. perhaps bethelites everywhere should apply this scripture, by looking for a job and accommodation now - and then just resign from their "vow of poverty" without giving advance warning.
(proverbs 22:3) "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, but the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences.".
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Then why build the new Bethel facility in Chelmsford if they are laying off Bethelites. Isn't this facility supposed to be bigger than Mill Hill? -
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Does the Federal employment law requiring notice of 60 days of mass layoffs apply to Watchtower Corporation?
by truthseeker inyes, bethelites are unpaid volunteers/employees.. this mass firing of bethelites in the us will prove to be a drain on state and local government finances as many of these bethelites will seek government assistance.. can it be said that the federal employment law applies to bethel?.
a federal law called consolidated omnibus budget reconciliation act ... act (warn) requires larger employers to give employees notice 60 days before an ... layoffs, which are defined the same as above but occur in stages over a period of 90 days.. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/layoffs-plant-closings-know-rights-33596.html.
notice requirements.
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Yes, Bethelites are unpaid volunteers/employees.
This mass firing of Bethelites in the US will prove to be a drain on state and local government finances as many of these Bethelites will seek government assistance.
Can it be said that the Federal employment law applies to Bethel?
A federal law called Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act ... Act (WARN) requires larger employers to give employees notice 60 days before an ... layoffs, which are defined the same as above but occur in stages over a period of 90 days.
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/layoffs-plant-closings-know-rights-33596.html
Notice Requirements
The federal Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act (WARN) requires larger employers to give employees notice 60 days before an impending plant closing or mass layoff that will result in job losses for a specified number or percentage of employees. Employers who don't comply with this notice requirement may have to pay workers for every day of notice they didn't receive. Under similar state laws, laid-off workers may be entitled to some severance or benefits continuation, as well.
WARN applies only to employees with 100 or more employees, and only if there is a plant closing or mass layoff. The law defines these terms as follows:
- A plant closing is the permanent or temporary shutdown of a single employment site or one or more facilities or operating units with a single site, which results in job loss for 50 or more employees (not including those who work fewer than 20 hours per week) during a 30-day period.
- A mass layoff is a reduction in force that results in job loss at a single employment site, during a 30-day period, for (1) 500 or more employees (not including those who work fewer than 20 hours per week), or (2) 50 to 499 employees (not including those who work fewer than 20 hours per week), if the laid-off employees make up at least one-third of the employer's active workforce.
The law also covers staged plant closings or layoffs, which are defined the same as above but occur in stages over a period of 90 days. This rule is intended to prevent employers from getting around the law's requirements by conducting a series of smaller layoffs.
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The Society cares more about Mark Sanderson's stick of Judah than the elephant in the room
by truthseeker ini just watched the segment of mark anderson's, gb member, talking at the annual general meeting.. they care more about obscure prophecies than the child abuse crisis in the organization.. he talks about the two and ten tribe kingdoms of israel, the stick of joseph and stick of judah, and likens it to the anointed and great crowd.. what a bunch of craziness!.
this is the kind of crap spiritual food the drones get..
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I never even heard of the two sticks prophecy in Ezekiel. Probably fell asleep when it was being discussed.
"What is the modern day fulfillment? How are these words fulfilled in our time?" says Sanderson.
I thought we were done with types and anti-types?
"The prophecy began to be fulfilled in 1914 especially since 1919 and now this prophecy regarding the two sticks would begin to be fulfilled."
Totally bonkers.
"We can now say with confidence that the stick of Joseph in our modern day represents the other sheep with an earthly hope. Jehovah has taken these two groups, his anointed servants and his precious other sheep and he has brought them together within his almighty hand. they are no longer two sticks but one stick. One nation in the hand of Jehovah."
"Behold, one nation, one stick, in the hand of Jehovah"
Raptuous applause from the dubs
