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Can't think of any place I'd rather be.
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i would like to share with you this ?item?
been organizing tours to branches of the watchtower bible
we are not sponsored by the watchtower bible and tract society.
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Can't think of any place I'd rather be.
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i went to a jw funeral last night.
i haven't been to the hall, or any gathering of the dubs in 2 years...and ordinarily, i wouldn't have gone, but this man meant a lot to me as a child.
i walked in, and it was like another world.
I felt backed into a corner, and too guilty to say anything but "Um...okay."
...and this is the type of attitude that they feed off of, that is, inducing guilt by asking you questions that are clearly non of their business.
The last time I talked to a group of elders, after some pleasantries they bluntly got to the point of asking me questions about my schedule and what they could do to help me get back to the meetings. I just as bluntly told them that my schedule was non of their business, that if I needed their help I would ask for it, and that I was quite satisfied with the course of my life currently.
Fight your way out of the corner, if you feel that way, by turning their guilt tactics back on themselves. They're usually quite surprised when anyone does this and are almost never prepared for it.
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please educate me my dear friends, and hold nothing back please-i would rather be prepared than caught off guard.. thanks,.
mobbie
This has really scared me, my husban WAS a witness b4 we met, then got disfellowshipped because of me and now wants to go back to it so he can see his parents. He assures me that it won't change my life at all and we can still have xmas, birthdays etc.
Your husband is lying through his teeth and he knows it.
If nothing were to change than why was he disfellowshipped because of you?
My wife said the same thing when she decided to "return to Jehovah" after we were married. But the subtle changes could not be ignored, books and momentos I'd collected that didn't fit in with her new spirituality secretly thrown away, activities we used to share in I now had to do by myself, the snide comments about what I viewed as harmless entertainment.
Look for your full-time husband to turn into a part-time roommate whose every decision and thought is strained through that latest of what the WT has to say. Look forward to spending at least two nights and two days a week alone while he engages in his new theocratic activities.
My personal feeling on the doctrines and beliefs are that the whole thing is beyond crap, I was raised an RC and whilst I do not practice I have an enquiring mind and do unfortunately have a rather large mouth.
Put that enquiring mind to work and gather as much factual supportable information on the WT blunders as you can for the inevitable avalanche of encouragement and efforts to "win you over". Whenever he pulls one of his WT polished guilt trips or flawed logic out of his well stocked bag, use the knowledge you have gained and that "rather large mouth" to blow him clean out the water and don't let up. He certainly won't.
Is my marriage as good as over??? I have told him that I won't stop him going but don't want ANYTHING to do with it, not even talk about it as I regard it as rather brainless.My particular marriage didn't die because of this, but, after getting in myself, realizing that it was a bunch of bullSH**, and getting out two years later, it took quite a while for my wife and I to develope the ground rules by which she can continue to be a JW knowing my opposition to the WT, I can have my own activities and holidays with extended family, and we both be happy. It can work, but you both are gonna have to really work hard at it and not be influenced by the inevitable WT elder interference.
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being trapped in jw land is a bit like a bad marriage.. when you first get married(baptized) everything is good and happy, the rose coloured glasses effect.. then later on, maybe years down the line, things change or are revealed that alter the contentment of the situation, but by then there is more commitment due maybe to children or shared friends and pastimes so it is difficult if not impossible to extract oneself from it.. to do so risks losing any normal contact with your children, grandchildren and those you thought were your friends.. so many choose to stay in a loveless/violent or broken down marriage (the borg) because the alternative is too awful to cope with.. what other loving religious group controls its members like this and then has the audacity to preach to everyone across the globe that theirs is the true way chosen by god.. anglise
So many choose to stay in a loveless/violent or broken down marriage (the borg) because the alternative is too awful to cope with.
Described my one of my in-law's marriage to a T. They can't stand each other and only work to make each other as miserable as they can, yet, they stay together because of the religion.
NOt a happy way to live.
over the last few years, it has become apparent that the teachings which were popular in the 80s, the ones that have not changed (unlike the generation of 1914), are no longer being mentioned in the study articles.. teachings like the 1200 days, the gentile times, even 1914 is not referenced with 607bce anymore.
it seems as if each article is nothing more than a lesson, how can we do more, give more, donate more etc.. it seems that only their books contain the doctrine they expound, the watchtower has no doctrine.. what happened to the articles on hellfire, immortality of the soul, condition of the dead?
these are never mentioned in wt articles.. the quality of the articles is so dumb it's laughable.
the WT is simply no longer considered serious study material.
I wasn't aware that it ever was considered serious study material.
something happened the other night that got me thinking.
i met a christian in one of the local malls and he did the usual preaching about jesus routine, trying to convince me that i am a sinner and how i need jesus and all that jazz.
he wasn't a jw, but rather he was from one of the local revivalist churches.. now what i'm thinking is that i've been out of the org for almost three years now.
2) Collect them at home and then throw them away.
Ohhhh...how I wish that were true.
There's stacks of old unread magazines around my house this very second that my wife is loath to throw out. She keeps them around upon the premise that you'll never know when you'll need one.
I may start to use them to start fires in the fireplace this winter.
anyone from any the area of southeast texas?
that was in Jasper.
but the same mentality runs through that county
anyone from any the area of southeast texas?
just remember......when traveling through that area, don't get caught DWB in Vidor...
people here post a lot of personl stories about things that happen to them with their witness family members.
but what about the timing of these activities..... i know a lot of people here have to be very careful of what they post.
they either have family they're trying to convince to leave or they're posting here just to keep sane while the jw lifestyle swirls around them.
People here post a lot of personl stories about things that happen to them with their witness family members. But what about the timing of these activities....
I know a lot of people here have to be very careful of what they post. They either have family they're trying to convince to leave or they're posting here just to keep sane while the JW lifestyle swirls around them.
In keeping with trying to keep identities anonymous, do you find yourselves sometimes waiting till wayyy after an event has happened to post here about it to throw potential snoopers off track? And, If so, how do you keep up with the details of such an event.
jury rejects plea to keep rapist locked away
he's set free, not declared a sexually violent offender
tuesday, october 7, 2003
Thompson did not undergo a psychological treatment program from the state while incarcerated, though he had frequent counseling sessions with fellow Jehovah's Witnesses.
More to the point... were these men trained or licensed counsellors? Unlikely. These are complex psychological issues that cannot be resolved by learning the scripture "Deaden, therefore, your body members." A level 3 sexual offender?
This is laughable. Frequent counseling sessions with Moe, Larry and Curly. What a Joke.