Posts by BLISSISIGNORANCE

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John Ritter Died

by Redneck in

just heard this on the news..he had massive heart attack..he was i believe they said 54..i loved him in 3's company..was a good acter...

BLISSISIGNORANCE

He was well know in Australia too..................................

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If you could tell a dub something straight from the heart..................

by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

jw
friends

don't hold back.

whether it's an elder, a co, a family member, a friend, a witness who dobbed you in, someone who shunned you yesterday at the mall, anyone at all who you would like to tell!

vent!.

BLISSISIGNORANCE

......................................what would it be?

Don't hold back. Say it as it is. Whether it's an elder, a CO, a family member, a friend, a witness who dobbed you in, someone who shunned you yesterday at the mall, anyone at all who you would like to tell! VENT!

I'ld love to tell one of the elders that df'ed me that no matter how many people he may bring in, it will never make up for the damage he did to my family. And to the other two elders I'ld like to say......................you are both pathetic sh#@*

So, go for it............................

Cheers, Bliss.

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What's the most ridiculous thing you were ever counselled on?

by micheal in

jw
friends

one of the cornerstones of jw's is counsel.

they just love to give counsel and many times they will literally make things up just for the sake of counsel.

i was once counselled for joking around too much.

BLISSISIGNORANCE

Ozzie.................................not today, remember?????????????????/

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Did you ever say/do anything as a dub that went against your conscience?

by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

i ask this question because now that i'm out of the borg and see things for what they are, i have been reflecting on what i did and said as a dub.. i truly believed in the preaching work when i was in.

i believed in alot of the things from the bible.

so for me, the preaching was something i enjoyed.

BLISSISIGNORANCE

Hi everyone.

I ask this question because now that I'm out of the borg and see things for what they are, I have been reflecting on what I did and said as a dub.

I truly believed in the preaching work when I was in. I believed in alot of the things from the bible. So for me, the preaching was something I enjoyed. I didn't have a problem using the bible either. If it was clear to me, I would discuss it and refer to the bible.

But all that changed as years went by and I started to understand things differently. There were many things I started to question about the borg, not so much the bible. The shunning, the df'ing, bringing up children the WTS way, the never ending meetings, the man-made rules and quotas about preaching etc., the hypocracy...........................................and the list goes on.

The crunch came for me though when my family experienced the sexual abuse of one of my children and a year later, my df'ing for talking about the matter, which led to false charges of slander!

After being reinstated things were never to be the same again for me, or my entire family. For some years after, I thought I was just a rare, one off, unlucky victim of corruption and evil elders. So I would push myself to go preaching, to meetings, brow-beat the children etc.

But once I started to investigate and saw what was going on in the borg, and the number of sexual and physical abuse victims being so high, I started to question my involvement and responsability to others.

And after the 'Sunday' show in Australia went to air I just could NOT go to anyone's door ever again and try to convince them that they should join the borg. My conscience wouldn't allow that now that I knew so much. How could I invite anyone to meetings or to start a study, knowing that the borg punishes a victim and protects the abuser? How would I live with the knowledge that I encouraged the person to join, aware of their policies, corruption and lies....................having experienced them first hand? And if then something happened to them or their family................oooooooohhhhhhhh.....................I feel ill thinking about it.

Also, what about my children seeing their mother put up with unjust, unscriptural, unloving, corrupt, abusive treatment. What message is that sending to them? I don't want them growing up and putting up with that because I brought them up teaching them it was ok to be a victim! Or doing it to others because in the borg you get away with it, being the abuser!

The worst thing I did that went against my conscience was to not celebrate birthdays. I do regret that, my children missed out and that makes me sad.....................................BUT, it's never to late to say 'sorry' and move on. We now have birthdays and my son and daughter will be having a combined dinner party at home next month.

Hope the above makes sense and I look forward to your responses.

Cheers, Bliss

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What's the most ridiculous thing you were ever counselled on?

by micheal in

jw
friends

one of the cornerstones of jw's is counsel.

they just love to give counsel and many times they will literally make things up just for the sake of counsel.

i was once counselled for joking around too much.

BLISSISIGNORANCE

Flirting too much..................all I had to do was talk to a male and some sisters implied I was trying to get into the brothers' pants. No joke.

I never knew until I was in the borg, that a single woman who becomes a dub and happens to be half normal looking, is sex crazed and only thinks of one thing!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yep, that's a comment a sister made at a meeting. She really hated me and stirred up alot of trouble for me in the congregation. She used her MS husband to spread negative things about me to the elders, so I got counselled about flirting!

Don't know where I would get all this time and energy for flirting and wanting sex, with little children to bring up on my own. Mind you.......................LOL

Cheers, Bliss.

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Newbie

by Abbie in

hey all,.

ok lovely, my very first post and i post a empty post.

got carried away with the tab key!

BLISSISIGNORANCE

Hi Abbie.....................and welcome!

It always makes me soooooooo happy to see people joining us here. This forum has been my support in leaving the borg without any regrets.

The sad thing is that the more people we get here, the more people have been hurt by the WTS.

But as you said, it's good to move on. And there are some really great people here.

Have fun and I look forward to reading more from you.

Cheers, Bliss.

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i think that 2 x jw getting together must make a good match

by nelly1 in

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because they both have probrably been thru similar experiences..and can share whatever spirituality is left..i know id prolly prefer an xjw guy to someone in the world :).

any thoughts?

BLISSISIGNORANCE

Hi Nelly....................I agree with you. Common ground goes a long way in any relationship.

My hubby and I went to the same school (before either of us were dubs) but because he's younger, we never met.

Then we ended up meeting in the borg. Both been through similair experiences with first marriages, knowing same people from school etc. we ended up becoming very good friends for years. We fell in love. I thought it was because we were in the 'troof' and loved it. But it turns out that we both left, we both felt the same way about the same things. We are very happy together, out. I don't think that I couldn't love a man not from a dub background but the strength in our relationship is the common experiences and deep understanding of the cult we were once in.

I have many friends in my life now, some from before I was a dub, and some new from work etc.................but the ones that I can open up to about the hurt heart I got from the borg are my dear xdub friends..............some old and some new.

My life has real friends in it now, my best one being Mr Bliss!

Hugs Nelly, take care.

Bliss

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