Thanks everyone for including the WTS gems. I shall save this page & take it with me to my mother's at Xmas - we'll have a jolly pagan laugh together over some eggnog.
gorgia
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" to assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneus as to claim that jesus was not born of a virgin.".
cardinal bellarmine, 1633.
Thanks everyone for including the WTS gems. I shall save this page & take it with me to my mother's at Xmas - we'll have a jolly pagan laugh together over some eggnog.
gorgia
when we were in we were often read that scripture and told we should work hard at putting on the new personality, which in wt speak meant their cult personality, nothing like the person of christ.. since leaving it has become necessary for us to make deep internal changes, to our worldview, to our emotions, and to our actions.. we have had to change from being controlled in all these areas by the wt cult, to forming our own new personality.. for born-ins like me this is really quite a task, we do not have a "pre-cult" personality to "recover".
but even for converts, there is stilll this work to do, before you joined you may have been racist, homophobic, or perhaps a thief, or immoral in some other way, surely you do not wish to "recover" those aspects of your original personality ?so you too have to "put on" a new one.. how are we all doing with this ?
i know that for me i feel it is still a work in progress, i need to work on certain things that are the result of my being in the jw/wt scam for all those decades, and some things that are a part of my natural personality which are not desireable as traits, laziness for example, and i am the arch-procrastinator, not good.. how do you guys feel you are doing since leaving ?.
Aggghhhh! That flippin' New Personality - I never got it right! As a teenager, I'm sure I must've heard that command every Sunday; it was like a stone in my shoe. How exactly was I supposed to 'put it on'?
My parents were desperate for me to get it right but I suspected it was a rather phoney idea - not to mention the fact that those JDubs' New Personalities I observed weren't at all like the desired New Personality traits spouted from their bibles.
gorgia
tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i have a husband and we've been married nearly three years.
no kids.. were you a born in or a convert?.
convert- converted from atheism in my teens.. are your parents / family jws?.
Julia,
You made me smile when I read you've started selling your artwork - this woud not have been encouraged had you stayed in the cult. I wish you much artistic success!
gorgia
tell us a little about yourself and your family.. just me basically, kids & dogs left a long time ago.. worked for many years & more or less retired.. might get another dog when i don't mind being tied down again!.
were you a born in or a convert?.
convert.
clarity,
Your interview is so full of hope & promise for life here & now. Very inspirational. Thank you for sharing.
gorgia
tell us a little about yourself and your family.. just me basically, kids & dogs left a long time ago.. worked for many years & more or less retired.. might get another dog when i don't mind being tied down again!.
were you a born in or a convert?.
convert.
clarity,
Your interview is so full of hope & promise for life here & now. Very inspirational. Thank you for sharing.
gorgia
when a debate arises between a witness and a non-witness, "neutrality" is often used as the trump card, a final.
argument that can't be overcome: "we're the only group that is neutral in worldly affairs", they say.. but are jehovah's witnesses really neutral?.
consider that witnesses will teach the following:.
Plus their little letter to Hitler.
gorgia
the 'dubs' came by today just as the wife and i were on the way out.
we chatted a few moments and the two guys wanted to know if i had any questions about the bible.
so i asked them to drop by in a day or two and they left me with two thin magazines and a book they jokingly referred to as "the gold nugget.".
Cold Steel,
Great post for lurkers still 'in.'
gorgia
"albert" was 55 years old, and the fifth-born of seven children.
i am the second oldest and babysat him often while he was growing up --- and while i was still at home.. yesterday, albert was out taking his usual morning stroll around his small town, when he collapsed on the sidewalk.
the doctors said it was a heart attack.
satinka,
I am sorry for your loss. You were so fortunate to have had a loving brother.
gorgia
some strange things are happening.. 1. wife started smoking.
2. wife agreed that the whole "clean up after armageddon while growing to perfection" thing is all speculation.. 3. as i was going to the meeting tonight (i had a part and kids are sick so she stayed in) she says "do you have to go?"..
4. when i got home she says " i wanna go out and party..... hmmmmmm.
Yes, your wife may be feeling a little giddy at first, I know I did. Just support her. How wonderful she may leave the org.
gorgia
So funny!!!
gorgia