Guess what would happen if God stopped all earthquakes?
Seraphim23
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone injust one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone injust one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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Seraphim23
Of course there are reasons why suffering and even death have to happen even to children. Everyone has to die because if they didn’t the resulting suffering would be far worse. Even those healed got sick again, and those resurrected died again.
Evolution works by having two sides to its nature so to speak. We humans call it good and bad. The good is the fact we have bodies that work reasonably well through past adaption, but the bad is the deaths of all our ancestors who were not adapted so well and our own future death. The same is true for practically everything. Gravity keeps us on the ground but also means we can fall and hurt ourselves. If the ability to feel pain is removed then so is protection from even more harm. If one is removed then so is the other. To put it another way, one cannot have left without right and if one is removed then freedom is also removed. Sure God could stop all children from dying but that would also mean freedom of choice is removed from everyone.
Mathematical equilibrium is how God created physical things, but to assume that God is not with the child or adult for that matter, who dies, is to see only with one’s physical eyes. Fact is God is with every child who is dying and dies, even if the human adults don’t do their jobs properly. If God completely removed their pain in ways seen by human adults, even more adults would complain about a God they don’t even believe in rather than trying to help children in need around the world. Without need there can be no generosity.
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone injust one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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Seraphim23
Not really tootired2care in my view because again one can say that even human parents can decide to allow and even give some level of pain, suffering, challenge and so on to kids for developmental purposes. The kids by definition will never understand it on the level of the parents and sometimes no level of understanding is required on the part of the child even though it would be a necessary thing in many cases. The same principle can be applied to a God if he exists, and so the argument fails here also.
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone injust one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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Seraphim23
Humans deciding what it would be sensible for a god to do will never serve as a basis to disprove his existence because the argument has no logical end. All reasonable people know that experience comes from life, and the more experience, the more we change how and why we do things. If God knows all things, there is always the likelihood that he knows something we don’t, which gives a rationale for why he might do things in ways we don’t or cannot understand as yet. There is never going to be a shortage of knowledge we don’t know, that if we did, we ourselves would change the what and why we do things. It’s a bad premise to disprove a God. It also cannot be used to prove God either.
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone injust one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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Seraphim23
Miracles do still happen. Witnessed a few myself and I am just one person.
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone injust one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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Seraphim23
I know what I said and what it means Cofty.
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Does faith excuse serious problems with the bible?
by iCeltic ini constantly read that having faith is the answer to knowing that god (or in most cases, jesus) exists.
but to me it's quite clear there are serious difficulties in believing the bible.. adam and eve.
talking snake.
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Seraphim23
It depends in what mode one believes the bible. One can believe in God or Jesus without having to be a literalistic bible reader, or neglecting the man-made nature of scripture. Yet such ones can still get much out of the bible.
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone injust one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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Seraphim23
Many people would think it was a fake no matter how good the evidence display or miracle. It’s never what happens in the outside world but the inside world. Hence the real evidence for God is always within. The concepts of virtual reality, special effects, brains in a vat, the matrix, and so on make such a display as pointless to many as it ever was. Only to those who make the internal realisation of themselves can lean from such external things as miracles.
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AHA! Moments. When you were a JW; what struck you the hardest counter?
by Terry insooner or later every jehovah's witness encounters an intelligent person with facts at their disposal who can unload something that causes a doubt.
naturally, you defend against it.
but, the wind has been knocked out of your belief-system however briefly.
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Seraphim23
My first ahha moment was a dream I had when I was six or seven. It was very vivid and told me that the JWs faith was false. In the dream I expected it to say true but that it not what it said. Years after that it was other dreams I had that told me things that came true and prayer did not stop this phenomena, even though JWs said God would `cure` a spirit of predication. After that it was a voice I heard after a nervous breakdown due to being gay and a JW, that said I would be OK. After this the ahha moments were more intellectual and conventional. One brick built upon anther and here I am today, free and happy.
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You atheist really annoyed me
by confusedandalone inwhen i first came to this site.
whenever i would try to talk about somethign from the bible that the jw's got wrong or reason on a scripture that had so much feeling you would stomp all over it.
talking about "flying spaghetti gods" and laugh at what seemed to be my expense and then leave the thread never to return and add any substance.
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Seraphim23
Truth seeker 674 I don’t know?