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  Just 2 questions regarding the U.S. law around sex abuse

  by joe134cd in

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  2. child-abuse

  i just have 2 questions regarding the u.s law around sex abuse.. (1) in this country it is quite common for the events of a sex abuse trial, to have suppression orders placed on it.

  one i can think of was when the offender was given name suppression because to identify the abuser would also mean identifying the victim, so hence both were given name suppression.

  now with regard to the out of court settlements and gag orders by the watchtower, and yes i do realise that the wt would have the most to benefit by doing this.

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  Trust me nothing would bring me greater delight than seeing the end of this religion. I think it's unfair that everyone is prepared to bad mouth Wt over offering the hush money. Yet we fail to acknowledge that a lawyer would of had to of presented it to the victim and given his recommendations on it, for the victim in turn agreeing to the terms and conditions. How do we know that the victim didn't want this in the first place. Yet despite this Wt is seen as been concealing evil when no one acknowledges that there are also 2 other parties involved. I believe all 3 parties are equally as guilty and innocent as each other for the terms and conditions and yet only one party is taking the majority of the blame.
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  Can anyone tell me any narrative of having successfully avoided Baptism while being raised JW?

  by SonoftheTrinity in

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  2. experiences

  i just worry for my stepkids about their future that way..

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  If memory serves me correctly I think the reasoning given by Wt for baptizing at such a young age is that of Hezekiah. How he was a boy when he began to serve jehovah. Can anyone confirm.
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  Just 2 questions regarding the U.S. law around sex abuse

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i just have 2 questions regarding the u.s law around sex abuse.. (1) in this country it is quite common for the events of a sex abuse trial, to have suppression orders placed on it.

  one i can think of was when the offender was given name suppression because to identify the abuser would also mean identifying the victim, so hence both were given name suppression.

  now with regard to the out of court settlements and gag orders by the watchtower, and yes i do realise that the wt would have the most to benefit by doing this.

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  With all due respect to the victims of abuse. I noticed in a news conference Zaklin held for an abuse victim they came out all guns blazing at how wicked and unethical it had been by watchtower settling out of court with a gag order, and yet they failed to mention that they had brokered these very same settlements e.g remember there were also other victims in Gonzalo Campos case that were settled out of court as well. I also noticed to that the victims were only to willing under the circumstances to except the hush money. The point I'm making is shouldn't all 3 parties be equally responsible for the terms and conditions. If zaklin was so concerned about airing this to the public and letting the truth be told why didn't they refuse to take this to trial in the first place, when they knew that this was going to be the outcome.
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  Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?

  by CrytoJesus in

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  2. friends

  christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.

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  i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .

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  Crytojesus. They will react by kicking your arse.. That's the only reaction I can see you getting
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  Just 2 questions regarding the U.S. law around sex abuse

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i just have 2 questions regarding the u.s law around sex abuse.. (1) in this country it is quite common for the events of a sex abuse trial, to have suppression orders placed on it.

  one i can think of was when the offender was given name suppression because to identify the abuser would also mean identifying the victim, so hence both were given name suppression.

  now with regard to the out of court settlements and gag orders by the watchtower, and yes i do realise that the wt would have the most to benefit by doing this.

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  joe134cd

  i just have 2 questions regarding the U.S law around sex abuse.

  (1) In this country It is quite common for the events of a sex abuse trial, to have suppression orders placed on it. One I can think of was when the offender was given name suppression because to identify the abuser would also mean identifying the victim, so hence both were given name suppression. Now with regard to the out of court settlements and gag orders by the watchtower, and yes I do realise that the Wt would have the most to benefit by doing this. But could the reason that this was chosen by both parties was to not have this thing dragged out in the eye of the public. I could imagine that it would be quite a traumatic experience for the victim, and they would of been compensated as such. For Wt to have offered it, the victim must of been only to willing to except it. So hence it was a win win situation for both parties. I'm not here trying to minimise or to hurt victims of sex abuse but I have notice everyone is quick to slam the Wt for offering hush money but I don't see anyone criticizing the victim for accepting it.

  (2) I noticed with the Lopez case Wt got thrown out of court when they failed to supply internal documents, and a witness to their internal policies. I heard on a Zaklin law firm video that they were doing the exact same thing in another trial as well. How can they get away with putting forth this argument again when the outcome is still pending in another trial.
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  Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

  by Qcmbr in

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  2. beliefs

  ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

  to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

  you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

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  Funny Video - Phone call to Bethel

  by Listener in

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  2. beliefs

  this video is hilarious and very, very clever.

  youtuber, theunwitness makes a call to hq and asks the question "can i talk to anthony morris?

  " and uses matthew 18:15-17 as his reason.

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  Will watch later.
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  A public thank you to Joe Grundy

  by Pams girl in

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  2. friends

  i have been going through the most terrible time these past 4 weeks, which has nothing to do with the jw, and everything to do with being abandoned with anxiety, panic and agoraphobia, and a new diagnoses of an illness called pmdd, which robbed me of my career, and it seems, my marriage, as my husband has moved out and left me with our son.

  this man, this "stranger", jumped in his car to offer me support, and travelled 2 hours to be with me, despite what was going on with him, just be with me for a few hours and try to help.

  what an amazing selfless act.

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  This mentally diseased apostate is just utter B/S. But I'm guessing you already knew that.
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  Using New JW.ORG Merchandise to Share the Good News, t-shirts and painted JW.org toe nails!

  by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

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  2. beliefs

  there are approved methods of preaching the good news about jw.org in style!.

  caleb and his single mammy, tired of your child losing notes to his teacher, pin that note with a friendly, lively jw.org caleb and mommy button for a small fee!

  https://www.pinterest.com/pin/356206651751072594/ with our rich hertigage of mixing organization with the skills of a saleman you knew this was bound to happen.. .

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  Another excellently geared maneuver by the GB. This is what they were wanting.
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  After Six Months of Hiatus, I can tell you the Watchtower is Starting to Crumble Faster than you think!

  by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

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  2. beliefs

  i took a hiatus from jwn because the wall started to collapse because i lost several people ive known almost my entire life.

  these were people i thought would never die, the lies told by the watchtower is unforgivable!

  there was a party i attended keeping a low profile while documenting what was said.

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