ok, who remembers all those long prayers?
especially at the district conventions!.
we had our convetions at a small hockey arena and the stairs were really steep.
Somehow a GB member would have to say a long prayer - which was annoying.
I didn't appreciate long prayers for mealtimes. By the time the brother finished the hot meal cooled off.
Neither did I appreciate brothers who would use prayer time to rehash the talk just given, the assembly, the Watchtower article, etc etc.
i just found out that the woman in the cube next to me is a witness.
i came in from my break and she was reading a watchtower!
i said "are you a witness?
I recommend you not say you are DFed nor that you know alot about the JWs. Otherwise she'll instantly have an attitude with you which you don't need from a coworker.
jehovah's witnesses use the number of the mighty 6 million (tm) to "prove" that god is blessing them over and above all other religions.
but with so many being disfellowshipped and leaving over the past decades, how many ex-witnesses are there?
with thousands growing wiser and more dissatisfied with wt doctrine, might the number of ex-witnesses over the years now equal the number of witnesses?
I heard in a talk years ago that 40,000 a year worldwide are DFed. I suspect the numbers are larger as the org is larger and more people are on the Internet.
But what about drop-outs, inactive, irregular, and those just hanging-on? I'm sure that's a much larger number.
often, when you pick up a copy of the watchtower, you'll notice some articles that.
give good counsel.
they may advise elders to lovingly care for the flock, teenagers to.
Well said. Unfortunately many more trees will be wasted before the WTS becomes a dinosaur.
I think I'll start taking the Watchtower and Awake magazines from some poor lonely pioneer on the street. I'll use them for free toilet paper. At least it will be wasted paper put to good use. And it give my butt some color.
http://www.crainsny.com/news.cms?newsid=7751
watchtower building sold
the jehovah's witnesses have made a deal to sell their 1 million-square-foot building on the brooklyn waterfront to ral development services, a residential development company.
Hey! I was just thinking. With 360 Furman street on the way out, does this mean that some residence buildings that the WTS have in Columbia Heights will be sold as well? Perhaps one or more of the smaller ones? After all, with the 360 Furman building sale there will be a decrease of their local labor force as the 360 Furman workers are either transfered to other areas or, most likely, laid-off. So I think this will not be the only WTS building in the area that will be up for grabs.
I wonder how the antagonized Columbia Heights residents must be feeling regarding this sale and the possibility of other sales? For a while they thought that the WTS was taking over the neighborhood.
http://www.crainsny.com/news.cms?newsid=7751
watchtower building sold
the jehovah's witnesses have made a deal to sell their 1 million-square-foot building on the brooklyn waterfront to ral development services, a residential development company.
After rumors and denials, now the truth is out. They were selling the thing! Big waterfront building in a prime area? That had to be a megabuck sale. I'm half surprised the WTS didn't rent or lease the thing.
This is going to make a lot of poor unbenefited unemployed uneducated career Bethelites hitting the cold hard streets of the world as the WTS further downsizes.
http://www.jw-media.org/newsroom/index.htm?content=/region/americas/usa/english/releases/events/usa_e040412.htm
for immediate release .
april 12, 2004. watchtower announces sale of furman street building.
For Immediate Release
April 12, 2004
Watchtower announces sale of Furman Street building
BROOKYN, N.Y.?Today the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., announced that they have reached an agreement to sell their nearly one million square foot shipping and distribution building located at 360 Furman Street to RAL Development Services LLC. The agreement with RAL allows Watchtower to remain as a tenant in the Furman Street building for one year, sufficient time for all the existing operations to be relocated to their other buildings in Brooklyn and upstate New York.
Contact Jehovah's Witnesses' spokesmen:
David A. Semonian, Office of Public Information, 718-560-5600
Daniel Rice, Real Property Office, 845-744-1900
Also, by permission: RAL Development Services, LLC, 212-748-8900
my god, this is worst than last years.
i'm not writing the whole thing out, but here are some "convention reminders" for this years district convention.. "let us exhalt his name together" page 3. para 4. please bring a lunch rather than leave the convention site to obtain a meal during the noon break.
this will allow all to enjoy upbuilding association and be present from the very start of the session.
Yeah, they can talk. They say this while the VIPs go to sit in the fancy clubhouses of each convention site and enjoy air-conditioning, no noises from the rank and file, comfortable seats, no-wait ultra-clean restrooms for their wives and daughters, even tv reception of the program while they talk about 'theocratic' issues throughout the convention.
forum:.
wanted to pop in and say hi, and also to ask if anyone is saddened by "the vet"'s dimise?
it was nothing more than a sweltering cesspool in which the jw's had their yearly conventions.
< Wanted to pop in and say hi, and also to ask if anyone is saddened by "The Vet"'s dimise? I'm not. It was nothing more than a sweltering cesspool in which the JW's had their yearly conventions. (usually in July) God, it was awful. The 1984 convention was the worst.....usually about 25,000 Borg members were in attendance there. I was 5 that summer, and I could barely stand it. This was back when conventions were about a week long, and 8 hours a day at least. Sheer hell on earth. >
I was there for 1985. It was a sauna and a heat torture. One time I just took a bottle of water and just poured it on myself. Each day I looked forward to its ending so I can go back to the motel and run into the pool. People were fainting from the heat. Every so often you'd see stretchers carrying people to first-aid where there was air conditioning. Interestingly in the club house they had closed circuit tv showing the assembly program, very cozy air conditioning, and delivered food or available food and drinks. Visiting WTS bigwigs, the highly connected, and their families enjoyed the convention in comfort while the rank and file sweltered in an open pit stadium. I think one person died in my convention due to heat stroke.
That's when I've noticed at other convensions the VIPs would take their seats in the prime closed areas of the stadiums, coloseums, sports arenas, etc. That was an eyeopener.
i haven?t posted much in the past.
however, i enjoy reading the many topics.. i would like your thoughts regarding the following:.
after no contact with anyone in my former congregation (aside from being shunning) for the last eight years, i walk into work this morning and check my voice mail to find i have a message from one of the elders.
Take just as long to reply to their 'invitation'. Then say, "thanks but no thanks".
