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  Freeminds 2.0 has launched

  by Dogpatch in

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  2. friends

  today we are launching freeminds2.org.

  this is stage 3 of a three part project spanning over 30 years since i left watchtower headquarters in 1980 and gave the 18 members of the then-governing body, including president nathan knorr and vice-president frederick w. franz.. the new site will be more blog/news oriented (and updated more often with articles, blogs and videos almost daily).. all of our previous sites, such as armageddonokies.com and watchtowerworld.org, randytv.com, exjws.net, and others will be incorporated into the previous freeminds site, which is currently being revised and converted from its joomla-based format to this wordpress format.

  i am sure you will find it much easier to search for words, people, articles, and subject very easy.

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  L3G

  DgPtch:

  What did you give them?

  " I left Watchtower headquarters in 1980 and gave the 18 members of the then-Governing Body, including President Nathan Knorr and Vice-President Frederick W. Franz."
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  Another Jehovah-Witness-supportive documentary

  by A.M. Number 1 in

  1. jw
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  http://www.dailynews.com/ci_21983668.

  just its existence makes me mad though, so i don't know if i could contain my rage.

  it might just be too much for me to handle.

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  Thanks for the link.
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  My, my, times have changed...

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. beliefs

  questions from readers?

  why does not the watchtower society publish simplified material for parents to use in teaching their children bible truths?.

  -a question based upon frequent inquiries by readers.. jehovah god lays upon the parents themselves the responsibility of teaching their children.

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  What date is this magazine from? A recent one?
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  Skydiving/Parachuting. A disfellowship offense?

  by stealthmode-brazil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm an active witness from brazil (who would leave if it weren't for my family/friends inside) and always dreamed about practicing skydiving.

  but as radical sports are a no-no for witnesses... i wonder if any elder or ex-elder on this forum knows if an active jw, practices skydiving/parachuting once and/or regularly, can he or she be disfellowship on that basis?

  i'm considering secretly jumping but afraid if someone finds out.

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  This is not as official as the erudite blondie's always excellent research, but worth relating. Years ago a bro. was skydiving and the local BOE ganged up on the poor guy, telling him it was wrong. When the circuit overseer came round, they complained to him about this bro. The CO met with him, and since the CO had been in the airborne before coming into the truth, he went skydiving with the bro.!

  Of course, this was years ago, before the more current stress on abject obedience in everything, so it prob. would not happen today. Still, I thought I should relate the real-life account. This account was reported to me by an old, retired CO. I certainly believe it since he confided many such things to me & was always reliable.
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  The Watchtower abandons their 1914 doctrine!

  by Seraphim23 in

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  2. beliefs

  http://www.watchman.org/blog/index.php/watchtower-society-changes-doctrine-of-1914-again/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed%3a+watchmanfellowship+%28watchman+fellowship%29.

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  not sure how to show the link properly..

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  Both Seraphim23 and LostGeneration are right. Theologically, the changes in this WT are significant since now the borg is teaching things like all the anointed are gone to heaven before Armageddon---how? Who takes over? Are they now ready to start embracing the rapture doctrine?

  The current interpretation of the sheep & goats parable means people get saved without having to serve Jehovah beforehand, just as 'dazed but not confused' has pointed out (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/250635/1/Whats-the-incentive-for-becoming-a-JW-now-July-15th-2013-Watchtower), a REAL change in WT theology!

  The borg's current conjectures will lead to all kinds of theological problems, but LostGeneration is right, very few Witness care about this stuff. They are far more interested in the practical concerns of daily life, including where and with whom to socialize.

  But a few will care about this significant change in theology. Will it lead to problems for the borg? We'll see....

  Perhaps most interesting in the big picutre is why suddenly there is this interest in the GB's part to start waxing so theological. As many have noted on this forum for some time, the official publications have become dry and repetitive for years. Whatever these newest ravings are, the fact that they have occurred at all is really noteworthy.
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  Why are there 8 Governing Body/FDS members?!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. beliefs

  this is pure speculation.

  just one of those things that make you go, " hmmmmm??!!

  8th member of the gb is appointed just in time for the nu-light?!.

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  There are 8 because that is the total number of males who (1) partake of the emblems, (2) have been in full time service for years, and (3) have proved themselves loyal yes men, that is, they wouldn't dare rock the boat.
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  The Truth Changes: Watchtower of July 15, 2013

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  Doug,

  Amazing presentation---and all the more so since you were never a Witness! Thx for the work.
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  Apostacitis

  by Rufus T. Firefly in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  apostacitis is a term denoting a condition with which the watchtower society has become thoroughly infected, particularly since the year 1981 when sincere christians who merely resigned from the organization over principled differences in belief became viewed the same as unrepentant wrongdoers (1 cor.

  5:11) and as those rejecting the good news about the christ (2 john 9-11).

  there was a time when news of one becoming an apostate was so rare among witnesses that it sent shockwaves throughout the organization.

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  Rufus/David,

  I'm new here too. That sure WAS a fascinating experience. I was in a congo with some bros. who clearly had homosexual tendencies. As long as they kept them in check, they were in good standing. In two cases the homo bros. got married, really trying to become hetero, but they both couldn't handle marriage and wound up getting DFed after they went homo in conduct and couldn't handle the marital sexual due. So I suspect you are right that the official party line is that homosexual urges and desire are OK---just don't give in to them.

  I can see a BOE really getting upset at a R&F bro. who would relate this party line in a talk to the congo. Of course, if s.o. in authority (like the CO) were to do so, that would be different! Most likely "loyal, mature" borg men would never do so however, b/c of the problems this would cause (like you experienced). There are probably other doctrinal/organizational matters like this too.

  Anyway, thx for the experience.
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  Question from a newbie

  by L3G in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my second post.

  while lurking here, i've seen that some regular contributors have good resources or ability to find things in the wt publications.. i've got a relative who sometimes listens when i point out problems with the borg's thinking, but i don't have the resources to find something that would help me when talking to her.

  perhaps someone here can find it and help me out.

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  Thanks! That 2011 WT had the statement. Let's hope my relative will see the point.
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  Question from a newbie

  by L3G in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my second post.

  while lurking here, i've seen that some regular contributors have good resources or ability to find things in the wt publications.. i've got a relative who sometimes listens when i point out problems with the borg's thinking, but i don't have the resources to find something that would help me when talking to her.

  perhaps someone here can find it and help me out.

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  My second post. While lurking here, I've seen that some regular contributors have good resources or ability to find things in the WT publications.

  I've got a relative who sometimes listens when I point out problems with the borg's thinking, but I don't have the resources to find something that would help me when talking to her. Perhaps someone here can find it and help me out. Over the years while attending meetings I remember more than once the publications stating that prophecy is best understood after the supposed fullfilment. This, of course, indirectly subracts from the validity of trying to figure out prophecy ahead of time, what the borg so often has practiced. If it's not too much work, maybe someone could give me a few of those refs. from past literature with this statement so that I can share them with my somewhat still-in relative. She expressed doubts to me that the publications have never said that, but I know I read it repeatedly...

  Thanks in advance to any kind soul who can help me out here.