Posts by yrs2long

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The Beginning of the End for Me?

by rem in

well, friends, this could be the beginning of the end for me.

im not sure what, if anything, is going to happen to me in the next few weeks, so ill have to wait and see.

heres the situation:.

yrs2long

Rem,

Please keep us posted and also tell us in the subsequent days, months, etc what effect whatever action they decide to take has on your life.

Take care.

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questions about obtaining Higher Education for JWs

by AjaxMan in

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friends

i have read a couple of threads the last couple of days that dealt with what you have to give up when becoming a jw.. most posts that i read said they have to give up getting a higher education.

my question is this: is that still a trend today?

that elders frown or discourage young jws from going to college or university by telling them to put kingdom's interest first?

yrs2long

When my non-baptized brother told my father he'd decided that he would pursue his doctorate my elder father replied, 'and you'll be done just in time for Armageddon'

36

10 years since My Exit - The Introduction

by Amazing in

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friends

my exit introduction .

over the next few weeks or months, i will post an accounting of my exit process in a series of 15 short stories.

it will be part of my permanent notes that may someday be incorporated in a book likely a private book for my children and grandchildren.

I look forward to reading personal experiences such as yours and also any of the others that detail the often slow and painful process of adjusting to life after the watchtower. I feel I am adjusting pretty well but still have very few 'worldly' friends and haven't yet had any apostate-meets-witness confrontations.

Please share.

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These letters will blow your mind!

by Dogpatch in

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friends

these letters will blow your mind!.

it's hard to beleive that one or two small-minded men in the service dept.

could be responsible for thousands of medical emergencies going bad or even death.

yrs2long

Argumentation such as this is precisely why the Governing Body doesn't want its members to be educated. Otherwise they have to fall back on the 'running ahead of God's chariot' warning. My hat's off to the patient elder who with his time and determination has provided me much ammunition against the society with my folks.

Thanks Randy for sharing!

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Your Opinions Please!!!!

by Ranchette in

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friends

the following is a post i made to prisca on another thread.

i am courious about how many agree with what i say here or am i wrong?.

re: rick and his thugs jan 20, 2002 13:15 .

yrs2long

Hi Tracy,

I did read the posts above and others in various threads and noted that Kent was the one who did the actual uploading of the photograph and that he then removed it. I also noted that there was public outcry over the situation. Perhaps in using the word 'perpetrator' I used too strong a word to refer to the person(s) who forwarded Prisca's picture. However, this seems to be the last aspect of the incident that just won't die and I would guess that there is a trail leading somewhere and all the participators on that trail probably check in here at some point or another. Now they certainly are not obligated to come forward but in the interests of resolving the matter once and for all, and in the interests of saving bandwidth on this subject it might behoove them to do so. Maybe Prisca's frequent postings on the subject may actually compel them to do so at some later date, who knows?

Also, although I wasn't actually the person who likened the incident to a rape I do understand that rape can be non-physical and therefore can see how it might loosely apply.

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Freewill - a paradox

by gravedancer in

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friends

i have had a couple of discussions about freewill lately but it seems as if i am talking to a brick wall.

here is my basic reasoning, perhaps you can point out what i am missing.. lets outline the 2 common assumptions normally associated with the debate concerning adam, god and freewill:.

2. god gave adam freewill to obey him or not to.

yrs2long

I have a question on power: Is not using power an indication of not having it?

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Your Opinions Please!!!!

by Ranchette in

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friends

the following is a post i made to prisca on another thread.

i am courious about how many agree with what i say here or am i wrong?.

re: rick and his thugs jan 20, 2002 13:15 .

yrs2long

Can someone please point me to the Ex-JW support board? I'm really surprised that more people aren't pleading with the perpetrator to come forward publicly or privately in an effort to end this matter instead of pleading with the victim to shut up. Injustice is not so easily silenced, it screams out to be satisfied and justice is usually the only thing that will satiate it. No one should tell a victim to shut up already, it does much harm to their psyche.

Look how we rally against the Watchtower society for not stepping up to the plate and admitting error, choosing instead to lay blame at the feet of those it has misled. The same is happening here. Prisca is to blame for trusting people. Shutup already Prisca, get over it. The real person to blame should have never let things escalate to this point. At this point it may be very difficult to confess.
I can see that some have issues with Prisca and I don't know anything about her but that has nothing to do with the real issue here unless she is guilty of the same act in the past.

If someone had wronged me in this forum and I sought their identity, I would shout it from the rooftops. And I would allow no one to convince me to let it go if I chose to pursue it. While it is true that Prisca may find that she is getting absolutely nowhere in her quest, how long she wishes to continue is for her alone to decide.

It also didn't appear to me that she went looking for a new soapbox upon which to air the wrong yet again; someone asked for evidence of transgression on the part of some posters here and she supplied an example. Again, this is well within her right as a wronged person and it was completely on topic in that thread as far as validating a fear on the part of Kismet that someone might publish info on him.

Of course, this is just my opinion as a person who would like to see the matter come to a close but who recognizes there is a better way to settle a problem than just ignoring it.

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We're not wrong, right?.............

by flower in

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friends

suddenly i am hit with this overwhelming feeling that we are wrong and that there are logical explanations for all of the things that dont make sense.

aaaah.

this is awful.

yrs2long

Hi Flowers,

I think it might help if you actually do some of your own research or at least read other intense research on the beliefs of JWs. This is what helped me get over any lingering doubts. After awhile I would actually feel sick at finding out how we have been duped. Even after all of the head knowledge and the begrudging acknowledgment that I have been a fool for not analyzing all of the madness, I found that I had to let go of my emotional connection and realize that I was now on my own and had to make my own decisions. There would no longer be any leaning on Jehovah or the society either for that matter. And yet I found that this thought wasn't a bad thing.

Oh how I cried at the betrayal of the society and the board of governors, I mean governing body. Imagine, I had already been inactive for over 8 years and yet the mental and emotional connection still ran very deep. These days, I am having the best time of my life making my own informed decisions and participating more fully in my world. There is no doubting now when I speak to my Jw family that they really are just drones lip-syncing the words of the Watchtower corporation. That corporation dictates what movies they watch, who they can speak with and governs most other activity in their lives. Did you ever imagine that getting baptized to serve god meant most of your decision making would be removed from you?

As far as Armageddon and everlasting life are concerned, if exercising my thinking ability and making my own decisions with my god-given mind and heart condemn me to just one human lifespan, then so be it; I will take my chances.

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potatoes

by larc in

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friends

what is your favorite form of potato?

is it baked, fryed, mashed, boiled, served in soup?.

come on guys and gals, i know we are living on the edge, with questions like this, but what the hey, go for it!.