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  A Time to Make Changes

  by waiting in

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  thnx-thnx!!!plzreadthis!!

  h20 post.

  posted by seeker4 [seeker4] on january 27, 2001 at 18:02:08 {lkfel14mdsubi2tgjvegd9bhhxgwag}:.

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  Xandit

  waiting,

  I think if people have some real hard facts on this particular issue, facts that show pedophiles were protected or that people were told not to go to the authorities, especially if threats are involved, then this may come to something and anyone with such information should get involved. But, anecdotes and outrage are going to get you nowhere. It has to be multiple witnesses and/or something in writing.

  I think you would have to have Circuit or District Overseer involvement to get back to the boys at headquarters, they are officialy members of the Bethel family so that's a direct link, otherwise it's just the locals that will have to pay a price, not that there's anything wrong with that. A few scalps hanging on the lodgepole has a real salutory effect on others.
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  Did You Know ....? [WtBTS]

  by RR in

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  did you know that ..... 1. the advent christian church published a monthly magazine called "the watch tower" published at the same time that the society published their "watch tower.".

  2. that the society proclaimed the end of the world in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1945, 1975, 1984, 1994, 1999?.

  3. that they once taught that the holy spirit ceased operating in 1918, and that jehovah was using angels to relay his new light?.

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  Xandit

  I've been a Witness for decades and I knew people in a lot of different areas during the time period in question. There was no emphasis on those later dates at all. There's enough real stuff around without making things up. This alluding to and infering is so often in the minds of the beholders, or those who inflence the beholders.
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  Can You Believe THIS?

  by LDH in

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  from the jw-media site http://www.jw-media.org.

  ::::do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?.

  many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not jehovah's witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.

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  Xandit

  Gozz, very simply, No I do not believe only Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon and I am not sure if at that point 'names' will mean much at all. This is a question I've asked many Witnesses including Elders, ex-COs, etc. and to this date not one has said that only Witnesses will survive.

  Frency said one thing is said and another is implied. I believe most people see the implication they want to see.
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  Did You Know ....? [WtBTS]

  by RR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did you know that ..... 1. the advent christian church published a monthly magazine called "the watch tower" published at the same time that the society published their "watch tower.".

  2. that the society proclaimed the end of the world in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1945, 1975, 1984, 1994, 1999?.

  3. that they once taught that the holy spirit ceased operating in 1918, and that jehovah was using angels to relay his new light?.

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  Xandit

  Hierarchical structure is pretty close, and the commensurate authority structure. Don't believe JWs have ever burned anyone at the stake and the old rack and boiling oil are not much in evidence at judicial hearings.

  1984, 1994, 1999? I don't think so. That's going way beyond the things written.
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  Books

  by larc in

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  a good book,.

  i was wondering if any of you have read a book "visions of glory" by barbara grizzutti harrison.

  as far as i know, it is the only book written by a woman about the witness experience.

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  Xandit

  larc, it has been a long time since I read the book so I don't remember too much specific, I though it was a bit of a stretch that she was being spied on in India, a few things like that. Of course the business about the hareem was a hoot. What brought it back to me was the other book which it turns out wasn't Curches That Abuse,very good by the way, but was The Politics of Religious Apostasy. In one section it described her 'lurid' writing about the Island Pond religious community. A couple of ex members, Harrison, and some anti-cult people stirred up a virtual firestorm about this group. In the end, there was nothing there, it was all way overblown. Before it all went away there were some pretty grievous bending of the law by some state agencies that got involved. The courts stopped it in the end because nothing was really going on.
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  Can You Believe THIS?

  by LDH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from the jw-media site http://www.jw-media.org.

  ::::do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?.

  many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not jehovah's witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.

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  Xandit

  "Many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness before God's time of judgment, and they will gain salvation." Like I said somewhere else, I take them at their very specific written word. Far as I'm concerned this does not say that such ones have to be JWs. Works for me.
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  Books

  by larc in

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  a good book,.

  i was wondering if any of you have read a book "visions of glory" by barbara grizzutti harrison.

  as far as i know, it is the only book written by a woman about the witness experience.

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  Xandit

  I read her book, found some of it quite a stretch to be honest. Then in another book, something like "Churches That Abuse" (Witnesses not mentioned) she was slammed pretty hard for some stuff she'd written about other religious groups that turned out in some instances not to be true and in other instances to be badly distorted. So, it could be that she's not refered to because she's not very accurate. Is that a dangling participle?

  Edited by - Xandit on 26 January 2001 23:34:37
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  Real sad

  by claudia in

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  this is copied and pasted from a jw forum, its so sad.

  the topic is excluding relatives from your wedding.

  this guy wouldnt even let his own mom watch him cut the cake!.

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  Xandit

  I have to disagree a little with what some of you are writing. I've never felt obligated to go beyond the strict written word, that what I've always used. I know a lot of other people, including elders that look at it the same way. There have never been any consequences to following that course, and no one has ever thrown that 'mature' thing at me. I know not all congregations are the same, but I've been in a number of different congregations and that's the way it's been. Some people may not have liked what I have done but I figured it was too bad for them. It has never effected things like additional responsibility, etc. Like I said, I know that's not everyone's experience, but sometimes I think we allow ourselves to be manipulated. If someone tries that stuff with me I just tell them to take a hike.
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  Mommy I want to marry you !!!!!

  by Maxee in

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  hello mommy, let me get straight to the point here - (not like amicus who has been desperately trying in vain to sweet talk his way into sevens panties) - i think you are a living doll and i would like to marry you right now.

  yes you can take this as a proposal.

  i need to get some service in on you every month starting immediately.

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  Xandit

  Maybe Simon should heave this one out of here. It's not like he's even funny.
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  Jesus second coming in the first century

  by Jr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this discussion will be quite extensive.

  so, i have broken it up in to subtopics.

  it will be shared by myself and associates in the faith.

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  Xandit

  I'm sure we're all waiting with baited breath, it's not often that we are privileged to be witness to such profundity. Jr, that's junior right? Yeesh