Shogun by James Clavell
The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett
Winters Tale by Mark Helprin
The Origin of Consciousness In The Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand ( as well as her other books )
Worf
ok, so i'm looking for a new book to start reading.... any genre, any style.. what are you favorite books of all time?.
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Shogun by James Clavell
The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett
Winters Tale by Mark Helprin
The Origin of Consciousness In The Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand ( as well as her other books )
Worf
new york times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/nyregion/30hotel.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion&oref=slogin.
hotel where dodgers celebrated a title is up for sale .
Ronin 1, WingCommander,
Excellent points. Whether its property in Brooklyn or kingdumb halls, the fact is that many of us gave our money, time and energy which has contributed to the multi-millions in dollars worth of property that wt has or is selling.
My comment on this thread:
None of us, and including current jws in the local congs, will ever get any of the hundreds of millions of dollars that wt is getting by selling the property WE made it possible for them to get over the years. And that includes how our parents and grandparents also contributed money time and energy to make it possible for wt to obtain all their real estate from years ago up until modern times.AND WE SHOULD BE LIVID ABOUT THIS. I AM.Ronin 1, you and I personally spent 10 years on the construction crews, so you know personally what I mean.
It is obvious to me that with the older guard dying off, the younger guard simply want to perpetuate their parasitical lifestyle of living off the rank and file, so they can have an easy lifestyle like those before them. Do you think they really want to give it up despite the many scandals that have been brought to light? No. They will do anything to perpetuate their parasitical lifestyle, even though they know the beliefs are false. Just like the leaders in most or all religions.As has been brought out by former bethelites who have posted on this board in the past, "They do not want to have to go, 'On the outside' ", meaning that they refuse to have to provide for themselves like all of us have to with jobs, paying bills etc. etc.
It is obvious that they want to "get theirs", like the older bastards before them. And they will keep trying to make sure of that by getting money anyway they can. Like selling the property they obtained on our backs. And if it means getting rid of some bethelites, they don't care.
Now at least some of the bethelites who are now getting kicked out for the sake of money, and who looked down on us because we were not bethelites can personally experience the honest truth of the old saying,
"THERE IS NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES".
Worf
1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
Seeker4,
Although I have dealt with a number of the other gb members, I'm specifically commenting here on Samuel Herd. You are definitely right about his 'lack of any luster'. During my fight for justice in my case, my brother and I went to wt hq and demanded to speak to a gb member. They sent Samuel Herd. My brother and I threw scriptures at him along with wt literature applications that even he could not challenge. And we discussed the situation with him for 30 minutes! Not only was he unable to challenge us, but he did not use even one scripture or even one wt literature application. He had an astonished look on his face as we made application after application using the scriptures and their own wt literature. We left him speechless. What a dolt!
Bluesapphire,
I actually had the opportunity to do just what you mentioned you would do to ted jaracz if you saw him. Some years ago Bill B. called me to participate in a news conference in front of wt hq with a few other new yorkers. I jumped at the chance. I wore a suit and walked right past 124 columbia hts.The a%&hole ted jaracz was coming out of the building at the time and since I looked like a bethelite in my suit, he just figured I was a bethelite. He walked right next to me and said,"Good morning brother . Where ya headed? To work? I said confidently, "I'm handling some business down here".
But I was so concerned about what I would say at the news conference that I wasn't thinking about the opportunity I had to spit in his face. DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!
If the law of probability ever allows me to have that opportunity again, I WON'T make the same mistake.
To comment on this thread:
As for the things reported by the poster of this thread, "There are always possibilities".
And many times, so-called rumor has its origin in fact.
You may never know who is working in the background. Or what they may be doing.
Worf
happy new year to all :)
so i'm curious if anyone has further info/dirt on jaracz or any other gb members (former or current).
i know jaracz was publicly accused of molesting a young girl (now an adult).
Ronin1,
I also came up with Salt Point NY as a possibility. The information from Rayvin had also mentioned that she knew his family from Georgia.
Worf
want to see bethelites act like greedy scavengers?
just check out the tail end of bethel family breakfast, lunch or dinners.
for those not familar with this phenomenon, gleaning was when bethelites could basically bring their tupperware dishes down and store up on the leftover meals once the family was dismissed (usually by prayer, except for the bethel dinner).
Black Man,
Very interesting information.
And the "society" had the gall to constantly berate the "rank and file" about saving seats at the conventions?!
When this type of animalistic crap is going on in their own house?!
What a bunch of hypocrites!
Worf
happy new year to all :)
so i'm curious if anyone has further info/dirt on jaracz or any other gb members (former or current).
i know jaracz was publicly accused of molesting a young girl (now an adult).
That name is not yet confirmed. But maybe someone here on the board who is good at finding out such information might be able to
confirm the name later on.
Worf.
happy new year to all :)
so i'm curious if anyone has further info/dirt on jaracz or any other gb members (former or current).
i know jaracz was publicly accused of molesting a young girl (now an adult).
feenx,
Mentioned above is a possibility that the name of the deceased might be Jason Royer. Just a possibility.
Worf
yesterday we had a thread asking for information about abuses by gb members.
i responded by posting information concerningdaniel sydlik.
some have requested copies of this information.
Hello hillary_step,
No. I don't have the court documents. As indicated in yesterdays thread, this information from a third party, a sister who who had been subpoenaed to testify in the case.
On another note, did we meet at the 2002 protest march?
Worf
happy new year to all :)
so i'm curious if anyone has further info/dirt on jaracz or any other gb members (former or current).
i know jaracz was publicly accused of molesting a young girl (now an adult).
WT Wizard,
You know what wasteland jaracz belongs in.
Worf
yesterday we had a thread asking for information about abuses by gb members.
i responded by posting information concerningdaniel sydlik.
some have requested copies of this information.
Hello to all,
Yesterday we had a thread asking for information about abuses by gb members.
I responded by posting information concerningDaniel Sydlik. Some have requested copies of this information. I have attempted to e-mail this information to those who requested it, but I am having problems with my e-mail. I have not forgotten you and as soon as this problem is resolved I will resend this information to those who have requested it.
In the meantime, anyone who would like me to mail it to them by postal mail, I would be glad to do that also. Postage is no problem.
Your address would be kept strictly confidential. If you choose to, you can pm your address to me through the board.
Thank you for your patience.
Worf