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  Conspiracy against the Watchtower

  by Hiddenwindow in

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  here is one question that has been bothering me for quite some time.

  do you think a revolution, so to speak, within the organization is possible?

  in other words, can any conspiracy against the watchtower succeed?

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  To jwfacts,

  "People need to learn to stand on their own two feet rather than submit themselves to human rulers".

  Right on point. Wide scope accounting shows that to be the main problem on this planet.

  Thank you jwfacts for stating that.

  Worf
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  Conspiracy against the Watchtower

  by Hiddenwindow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is one question that has been bothering me for quite some time.

  do you think a revolution, so to speak, within the organization is possible?

  in other words, can any conspiracy against the watchtower succeed?

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  What is needed is a Worldwide Watchtower Rebellion.

  Such a thing is possible. Remember, the Iron Curtain fell virtually overnight.

  And so did Ceaucescu of Romania. In both situations the seeds were purposely planted to cause change.

  You never know, despite appearances, there could be people in place in all or various

  congregations planting the seeds that will wake the drones up. Finally.

  Worf
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  WT monitoring JWD? Absolutely!

  by fedorE in

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  from channel c (today).

  you may have read something similar to this before but the specific details are interesting.. this was put on a uk forum by an xjw called gordon...he gave me permission to use his post.. .

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  To the watchtower: If you are monitoring this or any other sites, it shows that you and your fu!@ed up jehovah are nothing but a bunch of cowards and paranoid fools.

  FU#$K YOU AND FU$%K YOUR SO-CALLED GOVERNING BODY, SERVICE DEPARTMENT, theodore jaracz, AND YOUR NONEXISTENT JEHOVAH!

  SINCERELY AND PROUDLY,

  WORF!

  footnote: To theodore jaracz: Your name is written in small letters above because you are a small man.
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  One more example......WBTS sells property owned by 90 year old after death

  by restrangled in

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  2. friends

  this may be covered some where in the archives here, but came across this today on the internet.. 90 year old anna bedford owner of one of the great camps of the adirondacks (preserve at green bay, 135 acres) dies and somehow the society becomes the owner.

  they sell for 2.250 million dollars in june of l988.. see the bottom of page 2. .

  link: http://nysdta.org/determinations/813952.det.pdf.

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  This is from a poster whose name was Axel from his post on a forum on October 20, 2000. He said in his post:

  "These comments are from a brother I know that was in Bethel for 8 years and just recently left.He tells me he has witnessed hundreds of thousands donated by property, estates, wills and more. He tells me it was very common for Ted Jaracz to carry around a bag full of diamonds and other jewelry that were transferred into cash."

  Worf
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  Anti Witnessing, do you do it?

  by bikerchic in

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  today i was at a laundry mat and saw several jw mags and tracts.

  i threw them all away in the trash can!.

  i also tell everyone i have an opportunity about being in a cult, the jw's and have had many interesting conversations.

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  Hello bikerchic,

  Yes. I do anti witnessing whenever the opportunity present itself. I tell people what I experienced and about the judicial procedures and all of its cult teachings and how the borg breaks up family. I also anti witness to jw's themselves when I see them in streetwork or if they come to my door. I just play the role as if I'd never been a witness and I quote scriptures to them that they can never give an answer to.

  Its fun. They prove every time that they really are robots who can't think for themselves.

  Worf
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  new september 2007 Kingdom Ministry Qbox

  by patientbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  brothers i absolutely had to join this web site once i saw the new km for this coming month, has any one else had a chance to view this?

  i'm absolutely flabbergasted for the first time in my life, what about the the apostle paul and the bereans?

  didn't he encourage them to go and find out for them selves the truth?

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  Welcome Patient,

  I was a third generation witness and former elder. Been out of the org fairly recently, since 2000. I was an elder for the entire decade of the 1990's.

  I'm glad to see that you can see that the sept 2007 km question box goes directly against the bible and what it says about the Bereans.The scripture about the Bereans is the same scripture the Watchtower Society constantly drilled into us. Now they are going directly against this scripture and their own teaching.

  I'm glad you are taking this seriously.

  The book "Riches", published by the Watchtower Society in 1936 (therefore by President of the Watchtower Society at that time, Joseph Rutherford) says on page 178: " If you find a lie, forsake it regardless of who teaches it; it is your duty to God."

  The Watchtower of March 1st 1966 on page 132 says: "Contrary to what some may think, it is not unkind and unloving to lay bare falsehood and corruption."

  These are the Watchtower Society's own words.

  Oh. And as for the scripture about the Bereans? You can be sure that they will be coming out with "new light" about that scripture soon, even though in reality there is no twisting of that scripture that can be done without lying. It is simple and clear just as it is. But they will attempt to do so in some form or fashion and the article will probably be called: "New Light On The Bereans". Get those sunglasses ready!

  Worf
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  Calling all ELDERS

  by The Oracle in

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  if you are an elder who frequents this site, please let me know.. i am trying to connect (completely anonymously - your privacy is assured) with as many elders as i can.

  i know that there are hundreds of elders in the same position as myself (have had our awakening and have come to realize that "the truth" is a sham).. i encourage you to continue to serve as an elder and for you to work together with other like minded elders as a collective force for true good.

  there is much we can do from the inside to help the cause.. there are thousands and indeed millions of kind and honest hearted people whose only crime is that they have allowed themselves to be deceived and are still active jws.

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  Hello Oracle,

  I was born into the borg and served as an elder for 10 years during the 1990's until I was unjustly removed. The whole situation

  woke me up to the fact that the wt is a scam. I would be willing to do what I can to assist you in this matter. I marched in the 2002

  protest march on wt hq as well. wt must be destroyed. Must go the way of the dodo. You can e-mail me through the board.

  Seeker4 can vouch for me.

  Sincerely,

  Worf
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  great tribulation

  by ush419 in

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  2. bible

  what constitutes the great trib????

  is this the poss coming war with israel and gog of magog or???

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  "I believe that armageddon, the great tribulation, and paradise are a bunch of baloney".

  Right on target Nathan. And the rest of the crap about jw's cleaning up the mess,antimatter being used by jehovah to destroy "some" of the mess, jw's searching for dead bodies and burying them for 7 years, the resurrection, hebrew becoming the only language, people being executed again "although a hundred years old" if they don't measure up, ( Ha! remember that one? ), man being brought to perfection, to the condition that adam and eve were at the beginning, all during the thousand year reign.

  And then the capstone: satan and his demons are let out of the abyss to tempt mankind one last time so that men and women of all nations could prove their loyalty to the one and only jehovah god and his reigning son jesus christ. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

  And those who rebelled were like the sands of the sea. And they and the devil and his demons were destroyed in the second death, everlasting destruction from which there is no return. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

  Sounds like a science fiction story to me.

  Worf
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  I need advice or answeres.....help please....

  by LouiseAlly in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi, my name is alison and i am having a very hard time to accept what is going on in my life.

  hopefully anyone that can help me can certainly will receive much more from jehovah.. also i find by writing about my story can help other individuals going through the same thing can help make them to make wise decisions in life.... i am 21 years old and my ex boyfriend is 25 years old .

  we were going out for one year and three months which is unfortunate it could not last longer.

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  Alison,

  You indicated in your post that you would take advice as well as constructive criticism, therefore here are some things to add to the very good comments from all the others who have answered you:

  Despite the fact that you were/are really in love with your boyfriend, you must realize that the jehovah witness 'religion' is not just a religion. It is a mind controlling cult. To the witnesses, you are a "worldly person" who has no future hope of life, or even any right to a future unless you become one of them. They teach that god is going to destroy you and 6 billion other people no matter how honest or nice a person you may be simply because you are not a jehovah witness. And that includes any of your family and friends who are not, or never become jw's also. Do you really believe that personally? I hope not because that teaching is one of the most dishonest teachings ever to be taught on this planet.

  Ask yourself: Do you really want to become part of a group such as the jw's who are guilty of false prophecies of claiming that the end of the world was coming such as in 1914, 1918, 1921, 1925, 1945, 1975, 1984, 2000? In fact in 1917, they published a book, entitled "The Finished Mystery", of which I have the original edition, where they stated that all other religions except theirs would be destroyed by god no later than the year 1920. Well as you can see, the world is still here and there are even more thousands of religions in existence than there were in 1917 or 1920. And they made all these predictions while claiming to the nth degree that they were gods chosen ones and that the information came from god himself and that god only works through them.In other words, they claim that they are gods only channel.

  Ask yourself: Do you really want to become part of a cult that is guilty of the murders of thousands of its own members because of forbidding them the freedom to make the type of choices in crisis situations that would have saved their lives. The watchtower society is bloodguilty because over the years it forbade its members to take blood transfusions, transplants, and other medical therapies that would have saved these people's lives.

  What about you? From what I can gather about you from your posts, you seem like a relatively nice young woman who has a bright future in whatever field you are in or may choose to be in. Would you really want to throw your life away if in a crisis situation, such as an accident, it was determined that a blood transfusion was the only thing that could save your life? Remember, your conscious life is your most valuable asset. Even though the jw's NOW claim that they are not against a person making their own choices for their health, in actual practice this is not true. If you were a jw and you took a blood transfusion to save your life, and the elders in your congregation found out, you would be eventually excommunicated, or as they say, disfellowshipped. This means your name would be announced to the entire congregation at one of the meetings, (that your boyfriend now attends), signalling all of your new jw 'friends' to never speak or associate with you ever again. You would be as good as DEAD to them. So do you really want to be a part of such a cult? All in the name of love?

  The watchtower society is also guilty of purposely initiating persecution of its own members resulting in the rape, killings and murders of its own members with the objective of dishonestly claimging that they are the chosen ones because they were being persecuted. Check the Mexico/Malawi situation as well as others.

  Ask yourself: What if you do somehow win him back from the other sisters who are interested in him, and you start becoming a jw, but your conscience doesn't allow you to agree with ALL of their teachings? You would have questions. And let me tell you: The watchtower society and their local congregations with the elders do not like anyone questioning anything, no matter how nice they may seem. They are a mind controlling cult, just like the Branch Davidians under David Koresh, and just like the Jim Jones cult who under his mind control convinced his followers to commit mass suicide.

  Alison, I was born into the jw religion and I served in every capacity.My father was an elder for decades and I was an elder for 10 years. You can trust that what I have stated here in honest and true. I invite you to communicate with me further.Just e-mail me through this board if you want more information and I will gladly supply you with it. I did not read everyone's posts so I may have repeated somethings already said, but you should take everyone's comments seriously.

  Worf
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  Tell Us Something We Probably Don't Know About You

  by minimus in

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  i'll start.. i love the jerky boys and "prank" candid camera/punked types of humor.. i also love r&b, soul, funk and disco.. now what can you tell us about yourself that we might've never guessed?.

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  worf

  I love bowling.

  I'll take miracle whip over mayo anytime.

  Worf