Posts by worf

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Disturbances at Assemblies

by freedom96 in

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i remember hearing over and over about how wonderful it was to be gathered together at the assemblies, and how the brotherly love flowed, and everyone got along.. they would comment that where else could you get 10,000 and more people together where there was so much peace and unity.. we were flat out told there was no where that this occured.

that wordly people could never have that many people together, then riots would happen, fights, drunken idiots etc.. well, i have been to many busines seminars, where there are thousands of people, and they never get out of hand.

i have been to many concerts with thousands of people there, and they don't get out of hand.. how egotistical these power witnesses are to think they are the only ones that can get along peacefully.. i know there are cases of fights, or something at large events, but there has been things like that at assemblies too.. has anyone here seen fights, or disturbances at assemblies, or large witness gatherings?

worf

I have seen people fight at JW assemblies. One notable fight at Yankee Stadium back in 1988 involved 2 sisters who were fighting over seats. One sister had 'reserved' a bunch of seats by putting watchtower mags on the seats. The other sister came and saw that no one was sitting in these seats and proceeded to remove the mags. They started arguing and the fight actually got to the point where they started punching each other. An attendant had to come and break it up.

And over the years I have witnessed similar fights at jw assemblies.

Worf

18

Harley Miller Died

by FreePeace in

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i heard from my mom that harley miller died in california -- apparently -- today.

i understand he had gone there for a pacemaker, but died before he could get it.. he had an article in the wt or awake 10 -12 years ago.

although i didn't know him, he sounded like a pretty decent fellow.. fp

worf

TO ALL ON THIS THREAD:

HARLEY MILLER WAS NOT A DECENT FELLOW.I SPOKE TO HARLEY MILLER PERSONALLY ON THE PHONE ABOUT THE OBVIOUS INJUSTICE GOING ON IN THE QUEENS CONGREGATIONS WITH REGARD TO ME AND HE REFUSED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. HE WAS ONE OF THE SERVICE DEPT PEOPLE WHO TRAMPLED ALL OVER JUSTICE IN MY CASE AND PAID NO ATTENTION TO DOING WHAT WAS RIGHT EVEN THOUGH HE KNEW I WAS BEING RAILROADED.IN FACT, HE WAS ONE OF THE MANY WHO ASSISTED IN RAILROADING ME.HE AND JARACZ SPECIFICALLY GOT TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WTS PROCEDURE WAS NOT FOLLOWED IN MY CASE AND THATJUSTICE WAS NOT DONE IN MY CASE.THIS INFORMATION WAS GIVEN TO ME A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BY A WELL KNOWN POSTER FROM THIS BOARD AS WELL AS FROM H20 AND THIS POSTER HAD CLOSE INSIDE CONTACTS.

SO WITH REGARD TO HARLEY MILLER, GOOD RIDDANCE!

I JUST WISH HE WAS STILL AROUND SO THAT HE COULD SEE AND SUFFER FROM THE DESTRUCTION OF THE wts.

WORF!!!!

42

My S.A.D. experience

by NewYork44M in

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for those who have been out of touch for more than a few years, a s.a.d.

is the special assembly day.

i attended the sad in brooklyn this weekend and thought you might enjoy some of the highlights.. the morning began with two "telling" illustrations.

worf

Blondie:

Yes, I'm going to college and I find the exact same situations that you describe. I just wish I'd gone years ago. I could have had a few degrees by now. But, as they say, it is never too late. One of the things I find encouraging is the ads on the subways here in NYC which encourage college. These ads feature 60, 70, and 80 year old men and women who have recently gone back to college and obtained their degrees in various fields. So I always tell myself that if they can do it at their age, I can do it too and I'm only 41.

And I'm really enjoying college. I also believe that in most cases a degree will get you a better paying job.

The borg took a lot away from many of us. But I'm glad to see that many of us are getting right in there and taking back what was denied us by going back to school and doing things for ourselves.

That assembly experience was full of sh!@#$%!

NY44M:

Thanks for informing us that the borg is spewing the same ole bullshi!@#$%T!

Nothings changed.

It truly is S.A.D.

Worf

17

5 Steps the Watchtower Society must take.

by Amazing in

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here is what i believe the watchtower society needs to do in 5 clear steps.

that is if they are to avoid the coming "trainwreck" of being forced out of business: .

1. take full and complete responsibility for their part in the bad policies with respect to blood, sexual molestation, and shunning.

worf

Islandwoman,

Amazing is right. It is not wishful thinking. The wts will not last. It will be forced out of business. There is more coming against them than you realize.

Just sit back and watch.

Worf

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PREACHERS WILL GO TO JAIL

by minimus in

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a nearby congregation announced that due to the society's winning the case in the supreme court concerning door to door work, territories that have not been worked in 2 years, will now be worked.

publishers should no longer contact the local police dept.

before they go in the field, no longer should they tell the police where they will be working or what cars they will be driving, including license plates.

worf

Thank you Alchemist!

I was going to say the exact same thing about 30 Years A Watchtower Slave. It is the same old tactic. They want to stir up so-called 'persecution' to try and preserve that "us against the world" mind control attitude in the remaining braindead borg drones.

That book was very enlightening as to the real agenda of the borg.

Worf

11

newyork, Longisland

by hamptonite21 in

hello, looking for anyone from longisland?

worf

Hey there!

I'm from Jamaica Queens, but I used to do investigations in Nassau and Suffolk Counties for 10 years, so I know my way around out there.

Feel free to e-mail me.

Worf

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Secrets of JW Elder Power

by Amazing in

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several days ago i posted a topic about how the newly reinstated could be disfellowshipped again for failing to attend meetings or particiapte in field service.

(this was based on the issue of lacking works that befit repentance.

) i used cautionary language about how this ""can"" happen, but was accused of making "dogmatic assertions" and that the organization book and the flock book never authorize such, and most of all the s-77 form sent into the society would trigger a co visit were it to state such things.

worf

This is a good thread Amazing.

benext: I live right in NYC in Queens. I grew up in the borg and was an elder for 7 years from 1992-1999. From what I 've experienced and observed, even here in NYC most elders will not stand up to CO's because they have no backbone even when the CO goes against what is written in letters. mags, Flock book etc.Most of the bodies of elders I know of here in NYC will cower under the CO no matter what he says. But you are right about the service dept. Some do have their cowardly contacts there.

If you are in NYC maybe we could contact each other. Maybe we know some of the same people and maybe we could share stories.

Worf

44

I Interviewed J. R. Brown

by mikepence in

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see http://blogs.salon.com/0001138/ for a sneak preview.edited by - mikepence on 7 august 2002 16:2:52.

worf

Ronin1 is my sister.

On December 10th, 1999 my sister, my then wife, my brother and I had a four hour meeting at bethel with JR Brown and Bob Pevy. We had been seeking justice in my case for a year and finally after putting a lot of pressure on bethel officials by our constant calling and letter writing, we finally got a face to face meeting, no doubt a kangaroo court, but brown and Pevy both told us that no one had ever pushed so far for justice in the type of case we were pursuing.They also told us that the gb had assigned them to meet with us. ( I don't know if thats really true or not). But they told us that we had made a lot of noise at bethel and that our last name was now well known.

For the next four hours from 7pm to 11pm we presented clear evidence from their own writings and the Bible that showed that a grave injustice had been done to me and my family. Both Pevy and Brown both admitted that I had been railroaded.

But 3 weeks later I recieved a letter from them as a result of the meeting and they said they were not going to do anything about it.

JR Brown has no scruples and there is nothing nice about him.He is just as evil as all wts officials are and Pevy is the same too. I have no respect for either of them and I'm looking forward to the time when they will pay for supporting the most evil organization on the face of the earth when they know personally that the wts is bullshit. All they care about is their positions.

Worf.

42

Joe Anderson Disfellowshipped

by silentlambs in

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8-1-02, addition to 7-31-02 press release .

joe anderson-disfellowshipped!

jehovahs witness child advocate.

worf

Yes Amazing,

It is time for the so-called religion known as the wts to be brought all the way down into non-existence.

Worf

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Jersey Assembly Hall? Millions in the ceiling?

by Cassiline in

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once again a post brought back memories of a jw story or perhaps urban legend.

the timeframe would have been (est.

) 1975-79. eastern us story/legend.. i recall the story as going something like this.

worf

I have always lived in New York and I remember all of the information posted here about the Stanley Theatre/Jersey Assembly Hall. When it was purchased there was a lot of excitement about it. In 1988 all congs here in the NYC area went there for a one day circuit assembly so the society could show off their new acquisition. They showed slides of all the refurbishing that was done and of course in their arrogance tied all of the events associated with the purchase and refurbishing of this theatre with the Bible. And of course the fight with the city to purchase it was labeled as "persecution" and "framing mischief by law". WHAT TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!

And don't forget that they were so proud of this building that they created a tour guide program so they could show it off to people from all over the world. My ex-wife was and still is a tour guide there. She had a written out program and on it was detailed instructions of where to start the tour and what to talk about and how many minutes to talk about each subject.Just like a public talk outline. And the chandeliers were considered to be the "highlight" of the outline.

Worf