Posts by sosoconfused

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1914 must go... they have no choice now (at least it would seem)

by sosoconfused in

i am sure this may have been discussed previously and if so just disregard this.. .

as a born-in 1914 is a date stamped into my head that is pretty much the foundation of our religious beliefs.

nearly everything that sets jw's apart from everyone is this date of 1914. forget all the chronology that proves that daniels prophecy and the 2520 years is incorrect - there is far worse damning evidence that makes this date useless and in error.. with the magazine that shines new light on the whole faithful slave thing - charles taze russell is no longer a member of that faithful slave class that jesus is using to feed his people./ by getting rid of russell the no doubt were able to distance themselves from all his crazy ramblings and teachings that are appearing all over the internet.

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I just can't wait for this latest new light to actually be studied at the hall and see what conversations are had over the course of that 2 to 4 week period. I am sure that I will probably be let down beyond belief - but there must be thinking people in those seats

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1914 must go... they have no choice now (at least it would seem)

by sosoconfused in

i am sure this may have been discussed previously and if so just disregard this.. .

as a born-in 1914 is a date stamped into my head that is pretty much the foundation of our religious beliefs.

nearly everything that sets jw's apart from everyone is this date of 1914. forget all the chronology that proves that daniels prophecy and the 2520 years is incorrect - there is far worse damning evidence that makes this date useless and in error.. with the magazine that shines new light on the whole faithful slave thing - charles taze russell is no longer a member of that faithful slave class that jesus is using to feed his people./ by getting rid of russell the no doubt were able to distance themselves from all his crazy ramblings and teachings that are appearing all over the internet.

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I am sure this may have been discussed previously and if so just disregard this.

As a born-in 1914 is a date stamped into my head that is pretty much the foundation of our religious beliefs. Nearly everything that sets JW's apart from everyone is this date of 1914. Forget all the chronology that proves that Daniels prophecy and the 2520 years is incorrect - there is far worse damning evidence that makes this date useless and in error.

With the magazine that shines new light on the whole faithful slave thing - Charles Taze Russell is no longer a member of that faithful slave class that Jesus is using to feed his people./ By getting rid of Russell the no doubt were able to distance themselves from all his crazy ramblings and teachings that are appearing all over the internet. That is a good thing for them.

However the linchpin that holds the org together the 1914 doctrine that we are all so proud of and makes us think we have prophetic truth revealed only through us was brought to us by someone who not only wasn't a Jehovahs Witness but they were not even a part of the faithful and discreet slave class.

Would jesus have revealed this most sacred of prophecies to someone that wasn't part of the "slave class", yet all the prophecies that were issued by the self professed "slave class" have proven false. There will HAVE TO BE a number of people who will realize this...

Yesterday this was one of the main points that me and my father discussed after our episode discussed yesterday. It makes no sense to him - and he is a 70+ year old man whose mind is slipping

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Jehovah's Witnesses: Who's Your Mediator?

by Darth Rutherford in

is jesus your mediator?

were these men anointed christians?

... jesus christ, is not the mediator between jehovah god and all mankind.

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@designs

I guess I should have said most Christians. Atleast the ones I have met in my small little world.

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Jehovah's Witnesses: Who's Your Mediator?

by Darth Rutherford in

is jesus your mediator?

were these men anointed christians?

... jesus christ, is not the mediator between jehovah god and all mankind.

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Can you imagine telling someone who was any form of Christian that the new testament is written for 144000 onl and that we are just pretty much observers?? Because in essence that would be the truth

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Gifts for C.O.'s and D.O.'s

by sosoconfused in

does anyone else find it funny that the circuit overseers and district overseers go to a new congregation every week, have all their bills paid and then for some odd reason the elders always find a way to give them extra money.

on top of that there are atleast 10 families in every hall that give them a green handshake.

then the people who give them expensive gifts (i am ashamed to say i participated in this) like watches etc... yet these guys still act like they are giving up so much.... .

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Please do... unfortunately he passed away about 3 years ago... he wrote the song that goes "special Gifts from God our children are"... cant remember the name of the song at the moment.

He actually held reading classes in our territory because we had alot of haitian immigrants. He was overall just a nice guy and seemed to enjoy what he did.

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Gifts for C.O.'s and D.O.'s

by sosoconfused in

does anyone else find it funny that the circuit overseers and district overseers go to a new congregation every week, have all their bills paid and then for some odd reason the elders always find a way to give them extra money.

on top of that there are atleast 10 families in every hall that give them a green handshake.

then the people who give them expensive gifts (i am ashamed to say i participated in this) like watches etc... yet these guys still act like they are giving up so much.... .

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The one C.O. that was great.. I loved him was Alonzo Hawkins... they guy was very intelligent and he made a fool of the elders in our hall when I was young. During one of his talks the elders were in the back discussing something.

He took off his glasses, crossed his arms and rested them on the podium. THe audience was so shocked... yet the 3 elders had no idea what was going on since they were so engrossed in conversation. He finally says, "What in the world are you brothers discussing during this meeting that is more important than the spiritual food being dispensed from the platform at this time???"

To watch those rats scurry in differnet directions was amazing. Surely that was also a testament to his arrogance but it was great. He was actually pretty well of though because he was previously an English professor and he had his own cash.

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Gifts for C.O.'s and D.O.'s

by sosoconfused in

does anyone else find it funny that the circuit overseers and district overseers go to a new congregation every week, have all their bills paid and then for some odd reason the elders always find a way to give them extra money.

on top of that there are atleast 10 families in every hall that give them a green handshake.

then the people who give them expensive gifts (i am ashamed to say i participated in this) like watches etc... yet these guys still act like they are giving up so much.... .

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The funniest one recently asked us for an old printer that we had in our storage room. He said he likes to tinker with things - fix them and then sell them on craigslist. Don't they have better things to do with thier time. He was also big into amatuer radio...

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Gifts for C.O.'s and D.O.'s

by sosoconfused in

does anyone else find it funny that the circuit overseers and district overseers go to a new congregation every week, have all their bills paid and then for some odd reason the elders always find a way to give them extra money.

on top of that there are atleast 10 families in every hall that give them a green handshake.

then the people who give them expensive gifts (i am ashamed to say i participated in this) like watches etc... yet these guys still act like they are giving up so much.... .

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@Desirous - that is the route they have taken with one very loving sister in my hall. Her husband was a very prominent C.O. in NC.

They moved to Florida after he could no longer keep up the pace. They became "Special Pioneers" yet they no longer needed to actually get the hours. They just made sure he gave a million talks on almost every meeting. Of course the first few years everyone was so in love with them... but he died, and only his wife remained. No one really pays her any attention anymore, and she is a 80 something "special pioneer" who gets 20 hours a month in service and we would make a shepherding call on her every two months.

She seems sad all the time and she just walks about the hall aimlessly hoping someone will ask her about her old C.O. wife experiences - but truthfully no one cares anymore

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Since Great Crowd has no mediator

by sosoconfused in

i am thinking that maybe i missed this discussion or something.

now for years in the org i never ever paid attention to the article that says jesus is the mediator for the 144000 alone.

yesterday talking to my 70+ year old dad he got violently angry with me and threw his cane at me because he said i was a liar.. .

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It's things like this that make one ask themself "Why would god make this so hard to understand..." but its only hard to understand when you don't actually go to the bible and read it.

For the most part it is straightforward and easy to understand when you just read the gospels... then you pick up a watchtower and its a giant clusterf*#k of information that is pulled together from 6 different books of the new and old testament - splice together with a few "Evidently's" and "Therefore's"

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Prodigal Son DVD, Seen it? Totally Unrealistic to me. You?

by Wasanelder Once in

here's the basic rundown:.

ok so little jw (21 going on 15) decides to get a job with a computer firm.

leaves family construction company to do so.

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If I remember at our district when they announced the drama, before it started they said that it would "pull at your heart strings and produce great emotion." So no doubt the people cried. How can you really be moved watching horrible overacted hand waving from 1000 feet away with babies crying and people sleeping and walking around?

It reminds me of those videos of people in North Korea who were crying uncontrollable and so sad that when their oppressive leader died. Of course, they were sad... because they were told they would be