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  Da Judge: A Few Thoughts

  by Farkel in

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  there has been a renewed interest on joseph ("grudge") rutherford lately among newer ones here.

  this is good.

  the entire current wt culture was shaped by him and his stooge, fred franz, and that culture exists to this very day.. da judge believed (or said he believed) that when he and others of the first-class wts elite died, they would be instantly transported to heaven to live and rule forever as immortal beings.

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  The only documented proof I have are the one recorded by those who were there. RR - that'll do :) Are we able to see/hear it. Is it uploadable?
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  Da Judge: A Few Thoughts

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there has been a renewed interest on joseph ("grudge") rutherford lately among newer ones here.

  this is good.

  the entire current wt culture was shaped by him and his stooge, fred franz, and that culture exists to this very day.. da judge believed (or said he believed) that when he and others of the first-class wts elite died, they would be instantly transported to heaven to live and rule forever as immortal beings.

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  RR, do you have any documented proof of Rutherfraud, Amberg and macmillans subterfuge or pointers to where I could find it? Thanks
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  CURRENT CO?s refresher course studies ?REVELATION CLIMAX? book!.!.!.!

  by yesidid in

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  2. friends

  also used were the daniel book, the question box from the kingdom ministry from 1972 till now, subjects from the insight volumes and a lot of watchtower articles.

  i could hardly believe they would have nerve to bring out the revelation climax book.

  but as i thought about it more i wondered if they (gb), in their delusional state, somehow think it supports their claim to power.

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  The real problem with these 'refresher' courses is that they just churn over old material. One of the things that I used to ponder on during the meetings was the way that they would back up a statement by referring to a watchtower article. For example, something like '...after Russlles death the bretheren where wondering what to do. The answer came in a blinding flash of light in the 1st July 1925 Watchtower article entitled "This is what you do, now get on with it you dorks". The bretheren were moved to action....etc etc.' All the time their reference is to their own publications to 'prove' this or that they will just get more and more lost, because in the furtur times, those publications that have the references will become references in their own right (or wrong as the case may be). Picture the senario - 1st July 2076, "well brothers lets see what the july 15th 2004 WT has to say, ah we must check this 1919 WT too. Ah that proves it then, aluminium is Satans metal, germs don't exsist, x-rays are the work of the devil and the steam locomotive is the leviathan as spoken by jerimaiah, there that proves it." "Oh thank you brother knowall, what would we do with out you -fawn fawn, so we don't need to worry about the ebola pandemic any more, it was just satan misguiding the world before the end as we are deeeep very very deeeeeep into the end" So there you have it, that proves it and you can check that article in the 2076 WT CDROM when it becomes available.
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  more ewatchman blarney

  by czarofmischief in

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  2. bible

  in conclusion, the final part of the days is a concluding period of time, exactly as the expression implies, during which jehovah disciplines and refines his people and afterwards brings the world into judgment with himself.

  contrary to the watchtower's teaching, the world-ending finale known as the final part of the days has not commenced yet.

  i'm not going through his tiresome essays, once again, but his latest has come to exactly the same conclusion that all the others have: watch out!

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  E-watchmysitecositsreallythetroof wrote a whole essay entitled 'Are you saying you are a prophet' in response to my question of the same name. I was writng in my 'outraged dub' guise at the time. I know it is wrong but I couldn't help it - he is such an arrogant twit. I wrote several questions in various guises such as 'outraged' 'outraged dub' 'apostodub' 'easily-led dub' 'totally-gullible-aren't-you-wonderful-mr-e-watchman dub' 'please help me dub' and vaious others too numerous to mention. It used to pull the chain of a few of the repondents on the guest book too. Naughty, I know, but such fun. Now he has a discussion board all the fun has gone out of it. Shame.
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  30 Years a WT Slave

  by uriah in

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  2. beliefs

  i have just finished reading this book.

  i imagined that it was a story about slavery at bethel.

  how wrong i was.

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  Thanks for your comments. I have read a number of the books, CoC ISOCF, Apoc Delay'd, Signof times, 4 presidents of JW, GTReconsidered and now 30YAWTS. They all have something to bring to the table and help one to understand better the system. I thought that the 30YAWTS was diffrent in that it did not really dwell on the doctrines, if at all, but rather on the mechanics of the machine - a relentless machine that consumed human beings without regard. I read a book on psychopathic organisations, I forget the title now, but the WTS fits the bill totally. Between 1921-1931 three quarters of the original bible students left, just a Rutherford planned. Without them the newbies would not be influenced. There is a constant churn of new members so the WTS is not really bothered by the scandles and the like because all the dis-affected 'trouble-makers' will leave and the new reruits will take their places, ignorant of the facts or what has transpired and being new and raw recruits, eager to knuckle down amd say yes brother, no brother three bags full brother.
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  Do You Really Think The wt Feel The Outrage Felt On This Site?

  by Celtic in

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  i don't think they get it yet.

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  No. Having just read 30 years a wt slave, I now understand that from 1921-1931 three-quaters of the original JW had left, which was the plan. No 'old-timers' to remind the new recruits of the failings. As new converts come in they are riding the crest of the WT wave and see no evil. Those ones don't read this board. Out with the old in with the new. When you undertand it is about bookselling (sorry, contibuting) you realise they don't give a fiddlers fart about those that have left, there are plenty more to take your place - and thiers when they eventually wake up and smell the coffee. We can read and write to this board until the cows come home, it makes no difference in the end - the WTBTS is a psychopatic organisation and does not feel regret - how else can you explain Malawi and others. I think this board has more to do with grieving - venting your spleen, telling your story, supporting others not so advanced in the process and warning those who have strayed here in defiance, and finally leading as normal a life as possible. If the WT gets a few potshots aimed at it in the course of this, well then that is a bonus.
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  Feild service just became totally optional. July 1 watchtower 2004.

  by XQsThaiPoes in

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  "today we likewise do not use fear or simular negative emotions, such as shame, to coerce others into obeying christ.

  only whole souled obedience based on love for god and christ makes jehovahs heart rejoyce.".

  so if you feel half-a* about door knocking stay home..

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  If you haven't already read it, I recomend the book 30 years a WT slave. It gives the details of why and how the FM started. Also, quite revealing in the way the persecution was orchestrated to get sensational news coverage. Whereas CoC lifts the lid on doctrine etc, 30YAWTS lifts the lid off the mechanics of the mind control. FM anyone, the weather is so good today we could spend a whole day in Kingdom Service NOT!!
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  30 Years a WT Slave

  by uriah in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have just finished reading this book.

  i imagined that it was a story about slavery at bethel.

  how wrong i was.

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  I have just finished reading this book. I imagined that it was a story about slavery at bethel. How wrong I was. I found it a facinating report on the mind control techniques used in the early days. We tend to think of mind control as a fairly recent thing. It expired (for those who have not read it) that all JW are the slaves, this state being 'scripturally' proven by linking the gibeonites with the mass of rank and file JW who 'became the hewers of wood and water carriers' of the 'spiritual israelites' aka Rutherford et-al. Has any one any comments on this book?. I found it totally different to the other books about JW in that it dwelt more on the mechanics than doctrine. I recommend it.
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  "The BIBLE said that all these things would....that was alive in 1914."

  by hubert in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i haven't read all the posts in this forum yet.

  so, i apologize if this was covered before.

  i found a statement written by "god's channel of communication" in the "you can live forever in paradise on earth" book, c.1982, page 154, par.

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  This piccy was on a recent post from where I nicked it - sorry I don't have the postee's details but all kudos to them for it - I think it says it all. From the 1st Oct(?) 1987 mag

  Found the link - here you go www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/74078/1.ashx: .
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  Why is there death and suffering?

  by hooberus in

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  why is there death and suffering?

  a biblical perspective.

  http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/death_suffering.asp.

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  Come on satanus, click the link and save bandwith charges and slow loading.
  
  On second thoughts, don't bother it dosen't work - leastways not for me