A book on the pronunciation of God's Name

by Doug Mason in

i am neither recommending nor rejecting the following book.

i am simply saying that i stumbled across it.

i have neither read it nor studied it.. search with: the name of god y.eh.ow.ah which is pronounced as it is written i eh ou ah its story gérard gertoux .

johnamos

quote - were also altered by abbreviation or addition of vowel sounds from Elohim or Adonai to prevent the DN from being said aloud. These names therefore have no bearing on the ancient Hebrew pronunciation of YHWH. - end quote

LOL! So you are saying that the 14 names listed 5 post up are completely inaccurate translations? If what you are saying is true then that would mean that any and all words in the Hebrew language that contain the letters:

Y י H ה V ו

are pronounced incorrect because they are forever at a loss as to what vowels to insert for them?

I will continue on to my point and then ask you a question based on if what you say is the case.

The letters in question for God's name are these 4: יהוה

All the names in above post with prefix Jeho/Yeho have the first 3 of those letters (from right to left) and represent the Y H V. In all cases the vowel E is added between the Y and H and in regards to the V the vowel O is used out of the choices of O or U. (As I said the V is said to be a 'placeholder' for an O or U)

All the names in above post with suffix Yah/Iah have 2 of those letters that represent the Y H. In all cases the vowel A is added between the Y and H.

Following that same rule when it comes to just the יהוה YHVH, an E would be added (prefix) and V would become an O, and an A would be added to (suffix) the remaining H.

Y י H ה V ו H ה

YEHOAH

If all those names "have no bearing on the Hebrew pronunciation of YHVH" because of also being "altered by abbreviation or addition of vowel sounds from Elohim or Adonai to prevent the DN from being said aloud", then why do they replace the יהוה with 'LORD' instead of just using Jehovah/Jehoah?

And why even entertain the notion that the name 'Yahweh' could have been how it was pronounced? When it comes to those SAME Hebrew letters in the others names they use the E in the prefix, replace the V with O and use A in the suffix.

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A book on the pronunciation of God's Name

by Doug Mason in

i am neither recommending nor rejecting the following book.

i am simply saying that i stumbled across it.

i have neither read it nor studied it.. search with: the name of god y.eh.ow.ah which is pronounced as it is written i eh ou ah its story gérard gertoux .

johnamos

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/15785

If you look at the above link you will find that what is written in Hebrew is translated into English. Looking at verse 1, you will find that in two place where יהוה is written in Hebrew the choice to insert the word 'Lord' was made when written in English. Yet when the Hebrew word יהושע is written, the word Yehoshua is written.

Note - Joshua is actually written in the verse because they are using the shorten form of the name Jehoshua but my point is that without question when translating the Hebrew word יהושע into English they use Yehoshua/Jehoshua as can be seen above next to Joshua - Chapter 1 and also in the following links you can see that 3091 says Yehoshua and you can also see that where they use 'Lord" it is 3068.

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/joshua/1-1.htm

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/3091.htm

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/3068.htm

Hold that thought for now! I have to go shopping with the wife and eat but I want to ask you something further and finish my point. :)

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A book on the pronunciation of God's Name

by Doug Mason in

i am neither recommending nor rejecting the following book.

i am simply saying that i stumbled across it.

i have neither read it nor studied it.. search with: the name of god y.eh.ow.ah which is pronounced as it is written i eh ou ah its story gérard gertoux .

johnamos

Not sure what you are trying to point out there or where you are getting your info, but can we put aside any talk about God's personal name and just address if you believe that it is correct to say the name Jehoshaphat in English when referring to the Hebrew name יהושפט

Likewise with the name Isaiah when referring to the Hebrew name ישעיה

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A book on the pronunciation of God's Name

by Doug Mason in

i am neither recommending nor rejecting the following book.

i am simply saying that i stumbled across it.

i have neither read it nor studied it.. search with: the name of god y.eh.ow.ah which is pronounced as it is written i eh ou ah its story gérard gertoux .

johnamos

YHVH are the consonants that makeup the:

יהוה

In the names:

Jehoshaphat

Jehoiakim

Jehoash

Jehoram

Jehoshua

Jehoahaz

the:

Y י

H ה

V ו

are used in the prefix.

The V is said to be a ‘placeholder' for an ‘O' or a ‘U’.

In the names:

Isaiah

Josiah

Zephaniah

Obadiah

Jeremiah

Nehemiah

Zechariah

Jeremiah

the:

Y י

H ה

are used in the suffix.

So in those names the YHV is JEHO and the YH is IAH.

If the current spelling and pronunciation of those names are not questioned then isn’t reasonable to apply the same vowels, spelling, and pronunciation to the יהוה

Jehoshaphat – יהושפט - JeHO - יהו

Isaiah - ישעיה – aH – ה

יהוה - JeHOaH

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A book on the pronunciation of God's Name

by Doug Mason in

i am neither recommending nor rejecting the following book.

i am simply saying that i stumbled across it.

i have neither read it nor studied it.. search with: the name of god y.eh.ow.ah which is pronounced as it is written i eh ou ah its story gérard gertoux .

johnamos

Fink, in regards to your 'vital information', can you tell me if the Jews ever stopped pronouncing the name for 3470:

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/3470.htm

And the name for 3092:

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/3092.htm

Used here:

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/joel/3-2.htm

And the name for 3050:

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/3050.htm

Used here:

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/psalms/68-4.htm

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/12-2.htm

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A book on the pronunciation of God's Name

by Doug Mason in

i am neither recommending nor rejecting the following book.

i am simply saying that i stumbled across it.

i have neither read it nor studied it.. search with: the name of god y.eh.ow.ah which is pronounced as it is written i eh ou ah its story gérard gertoux .

johnamos

I have determined that the name should be spelled Yehoah/Jehoah. (With no V)

That is based on there being no questioning the accuracy of modern pronunciations of Hebrew bible names such as:

Yah/Jah

Yehoshua/Jehoshua

Yehoshaphat/Jehoshaphat

Yshayah/Isaiah

If you read about 'mater lections' you will find that the V in YHVH is not to be written as a V(or W) but is instead a 'placeholder' for 'O'/'U' and in the following Hebrew names they use 'O'.

Yod י

He ה

Vav ו

He ה

יה – Yah

ישעיה - Yshayah (Isaiah)

Yehoshua

יהושע

Yehoshaphat

יהושפט

Yeho

יהו

With the above not being questioned then it stands to reason the name is:

Yehoah/Jehoah

יהוה

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Whatever is bound on EARTH is already Loosed in Heaven

by Alex Williams in

when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .

psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.

jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.

johnamos

hey Alex and Mrtheocracy…do you know what the following shows???

Insight Vol 2 - Because of having been resurrected by his friend Jesus, Lazarus was likely alive Pentecost 33 C.E., when the holy spirit was poured out and the first ones of the heavenly calling (Heb 3:1) were anointed and spirit begotten. (Ac 2:1-4, 33, 38)

5-1-90 WT p.26 par.9 - Martha knew about that hope from her association with Jesus, for she had previously said to him regarding Lazarus: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” (John 11:24) She knew that the resurrection would be, not on his (Lazarus’) last day, but in the future, “on the last day”—Judgment Day, when the dead would be raised under God’s Kingdom rule.

John 6:39 This is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that I should resurrect them on the last day. (Compare - John 17:12, 18:9)

7-1-98 WT p.21 par.12 - That “last day” coincides with the Thousand Year Reign of Christ. (Revelation 20:6) Imagine the excitement during that “day” when this grand event begins!

Revelation 20:6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.

Insight Vol 1 - PRESENCE -The Greek word from which “presence” is translated is pa·rou·siʹa, formed from pa·raʹ (alongside) and ou·siʹa (being; derived from ei·miʹ, meaning “be”). Hence, pa·rou·siʹa means, literally, “being alongside,” that is, a “presence.”

2 Thess 2:1 However, brothers, concerning the ~~presence~~ “being alongside” of our Lord Jesus Christ, namely* our being gathered together to him,

* (Greek kai)

Matthew 24: 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep in death, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, 52 in the twinkling of an eye, 'at' the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world (Satan’s) has become the kingdom of our Lord (Jehovah) and of his Christ (Jesus)”

[1-15- 14 WT – IN THE spring of the year 31 on a mountain close to the town of Capernaum, Jesus Christ taught his followers to pray: “Let your Kingdom come.” (Matthew 6:10) Today, many doubt if the Kingdom will ever come. However, we are confident that Jehovah will answer our prayers for his Kingdom to come.]

[11-15-55 WT -. …Satan’s kingdom ends completely at Armageddon.]

[9-1-91 WT – Almighty God has set a time limit to Satan’s activity among mankind. When that time limit arrives, destruction will come upon the world lying in Satan’s power.]

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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

by Alex Williams in

this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

johnamos

quote - This passage shows his presence lasts for many years - end quote

Instight Vol 1

PRESENCE -The Greek word from which “presence” is translated is pa·rou·siʹa, formed from pa·raʹ (alongside) and ou·siʹa (being; derived from ei·miʹ, meaning “be”). Hence, pa·rou·siʹa means, literally, “being alongside,” that is, a “presence.”

2 Thess 2:1 However, brothers, concerning the ~~presence~~ “being alongside” of our Lord Jesus Christ, namely* our being gathered together to him,

* (Greek kai)

Matthew 24: 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep in death, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, 52 in the twinkling of an eye, 'at' the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ”

7-1-98 WT p.21 par.12 - That “last day” coincides with the Thousand Year Reign of Christ. (Revelation 20:6) Imagine the excitement during that “day” when this grand event begins!

Revelation 20:6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.

John 6:39 This is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that I should resurrect them on the last day. (Compare John 17:12; 18:9)

5-1-90 WT p.26 par.9 - Martha knew about that hope from her association with Jesus, for she had previously said to him regarding Lazarus: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” (John 11:24) She knew that the resurrection would be, not on his (Lazarus’) last day, but in the future, “on the last day”—Judgment Day, when the dead would be raised under God’s Kingdom rule.

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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

by Alex Williams in

this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

johnamos

Peacefulpete…

quote - Check your interlinear the Greek is EV. The simplest meaning is "at" meaning in relation to. The NWT has certainly injected their doctrine here by using ""during". - end quote

Yes, not only do they use 'during' at 1 Corinthians 15:23 but also they use 'during' at 1 Corinthians 15:52, but at least in the older NWT they have a footnote on 52 showing that it is 'AT', but in the newer NWT they got rid of the footnote.

Vanderhoven…

1928! Did you know that they also said the 7th trumpet blew in April 1918? LOL!

They teach that the 42-months associated with the 6th trumpet/2nd woe (Rev 11:2) occurred in Oct 1914 to April 1918, with that in mind read this doozy:

[7-15-51 WT- At this eventful time the seventh angel blows his trumpet, that is, after the 1,260 days ended in 1918. Then it is that these wonders can come to pass. “And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven saying: ‘The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king for ever and ever.’(Revelation 11:15)]

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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

by Alex Williams in

this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

johnamos

I will try again...

Alex, do you believe/accept as the WTS/GB teaches that:

the 7th trumpet was blown in 1914? (Rev 11:15)

the 42-months of Rev 11:2 were fulfilled in 1914-1918?

the first resurrection began in 1919 and is still on going?

johnamos

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