Posts by EdenOne

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What's so mysterious about "generation" (genea) in Matthew?

by kepler in

thanks to a number of notices about a website titled www.jwfacts.com, i took a quick tour and found some very informative pages and charts about the organization's positions and history.

thanks also to a number of posters for their reminders.

i can't summarize the whole site in a topic, but it did include a history of the interpretation of the phrase "this generation", appearing in matthew 24:34.. "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.".

EdenOne

marked too

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What is the most powerful album that you have ever listened to?

by zed is dead in

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EdenOne

Pink Floyd's "The Wall", followed closely by "Animals".

Eden

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I asked an elder today...from the horse's mouth!

by Julia Orwell in

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today's watchtower made out that the combining of branch offices around the world is a loving provision from jehovah to streamline the production, but i had to ask an elder afterwards, even though i already knew the answer.... "if the wts is selling off bethels and brooklyn property and cutting the publishing costs and commitments, then where is all that money going?".

elder replies, "well the donations are just not coming in anymore and so they have to sell off property to stay afloat.".

gee, i thought if this was jehovah's approved organisation carrying vital truth to the world, then he'd be making sure the donations would be sufficient.

EdenOne

There's an interesting phenomena in my congregation.

Contributions to the local congregation are coming in as usual. It's not a rich congregation but has a stable level of funds in the bank. But the contributions to the "Worldwide Work" has been steadily decreasing. I wonder what this means and if it's an observable trend elsewhere.

Eden

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Should Employers be WARNED about Jehovahs Witnesses

by BlindersOff1 in

any gov agency or private company that has private personal info of customers/clients should be aware.

its common knowledge to long time witnesses that jws will violate customer privacy laws and rules when they see something a customer does or buys that they think jw congregation elders should know about .

thats right they will spy for the elders.. .

EdenOne

As an active witness, I find it near insulting that the very question that started this post has even been raised. I run two corporations and God forbid if I would make religion a factor when recruiting someone. Would I require "warning" before I hire a muslim, because he/she might be a potential suicide bomber? Would I require "warning" before I hire an atheist because he/she doesn't follow christian ethics? Sorry, but the very question is irritating.

When I was hunting for my first job, I remember at a job interview with IT&T, when I didn't get hired because the interviewer found out I was a JW and raised the question if I would skip my meetings if the company required me to work extra hours. Despite my answer that it would depend on the circumstances, and that I wouldn't hesitate to work extra hours if it was crucial for the company, and if the requirement was reasonable, I know I wasn't hired based on that issue. So it is a hateful question to be raised.

Work ethics apply everywhere and to everyone. If a JW violates the work ethical rules - namely, confidentiality - for the sake of having another JW disciplined, that JW is to be treated in the same way any other worker, and shown the door out.

Eden

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Easy questions others make difficult to answer

by Terry in

that is a question.

it is asked by somebody who does exist.. that question could not be asked if there actually were nothing.. .

that is a question asked only by people who exist.. if there were nothing-- the question would not be asked because it could not be asked.. .

EdenOne

Reminds me of Descartes .... "I think, therefore, I exist"

Eden

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Didn't Jesus symbolically give a blood transfusion for all of mankind?

by yadda yadda 2 in

jesus poured out his life blood, his soul, on behalf of mankind.

the wine taken at the memorial of christ's death represents this life, given as a sacrifice to atone for adamic sins.

jesus said that unless you eat of his flesh and drink of his blood, you have no life in yourself.

EdenOne

Oh man, I've been having so much to deal with in my work and I'm building something in my backyard (a recording studio), and i really haven't had lately the quality time to sit down, research and write. I've published the introduction and the first four parts, but the meat of it is yet to come. I'm just a bit too tired right now.

Eden

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Another probe of the Governing Body theory

by QC in

note the activity topology of spiritually "gifted" faithful religiously pure network of individual christians sustaining the therapeia (qerapeiavhousehold for spiritual cure) lu 12:42under the leadership of jesus in heaven.

all accomplished by autonomous ecclesia without central control from jerusalem.

this is the model antecedent for today's class of individual "faithful discreet" slaves.

EdenOne

We all know that Fred Franz and Knorr were frontally opposed to the notion of a Governing Body.

Knorr even said it would only happen over his dead body. He died shortly after.

Eden

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Another probe of the Governing Body theory

by QC in

note the activity topology of spiritually "gifted" faithful religiously pure network of individual christians sustaining the therapeia (qerapeiavhousehold for spiritual cure) lu 12:42under the leadership of jesus in heaven.

all accomplished by autonomous ecclesia without central control from jerusalem.

this is the model antecedent for today's class of individual "faithful discreet" slaves.

EdenOne

Mind you, by defending that there was some sort of a collective body that took the leadership for some time during the first century (and I stand by what I wrote), nothing in the Bible indicates that this should be come a permanent institution or that it should be replicated in the future or in the "final days" or even that it was the sole channel by which God and Christ were directing the congregation in the first century. What I'm saying is that trying to attack the Governing Body based on the supposed inexistance of a collegial form of leadership in the first century is really a fragile argument.

The current Governing Body could be a good solution IF only they would be following Christ, instead of glorifying themselves and undercut the christian freedom of the Witnesses. Alas, it's not the case ...

Eden

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MIT Survey on science, religion and origins

by Pterist in

interesting read and graph:.

*****i'd been warned.

a friend cautioned me that if we went ahead and posted our mit survey on science, religion and origins, i'd get inundated with hate-mail from religious fundamentalists who believe our universe to be less than 10,000 years old.

EdenOne

Cantleave

One can argue the same about the crusades...that they were primarily motivated by political / economical interests, and not by religion. But that's not an excuse for religion, is it? Same goes for Stalin and Pol Pot.

Eden

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MIT Survey on science, religion and origins

by Pterist in

interesting read and graph:.

*****i'd been warned.

a friend cautioned me that if we went ahead and posted our mit survey on science, religion and origins, i'd get inundated with hate-mail from religious fundamentalists who believe our universe to be less than 10,000 years old.

EdenOne

Cofty

Not sure I understood that last question of yours. Was I reading that?

Eden