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  Do You Try To Avoid The Witnesses When You See Them?

  by minimus in

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  i think i typically don't want to be either love bombed or questioned.

  i happen to see jws a lot while visiting my mom.

  they don't go there with me, which works well for all concerned..

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  I try to avoid them because they tell me to tell my wife Hello.
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  What Bomb Will Be Dropped at This Years District Convention?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  our insightful posters on this site were able to predict the new "spirit directed" generation teachings and fds teaching even years in advance.

  what bomb do you thing will be dropped this year?

  i know it will be big.

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  "What I heard is that 'something will happen that has never happened before in theocratic history'."

  Yeah, there will be new music and dancing in the aisles.
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  Bible is inspired of God??????

  by Crazyguy in

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  is there anything in the bible that makes you believe that some or all the writings in the bible are inspired from god?.

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  Yes, it is inspired of God if you know the meaning of Inspired.

  "having a particular cause or influence"

  Inspired means where the idea came from.

  The writings, prophecies, the letters were caused or influenced by the belief or purpose of God.

  It does not mean that God told them what to write and that it is perfect because of that, other than the 10 commandments and the

  other laws given to Moses.
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  Right! So the meeting last night, a few interesting things

  by Jon Preston in

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  so i havent been to a meeting in some time and my wife decided we should go.

  we showed up late, i was love bombed by an elder with a man-hug where i felt i was made a spectacle of.

  moving on.

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  It is simple. Why would he judge people on what they do in this life?

  There is no basis to make any judgment. If it is based on belief in Jesus' sacrifice, then what of those who do not know that?

  And what about people who were dealt a bad hand in life?

  It is like a race where people were given different cars and tools. The inferior will lose and the superior will win. It needs to be evened up.

  The resurrection will do that and put everyone on an even chance.
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  Jehovahs Witnesses make a big deal about following first century christianity, so please explain this.

  by smiddy in

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  where in the christian greek scriptures do disciples of christ record how many hours a month they preached.. " " " " 10 hours for women and children and slack husbands with no ambition.

  " " " " do they record how many back calls / return visits they made in a month.. " " " " have they set down how many bible studys they had in a month.. " " " " do they have pioneers ,special pioneers , aux.pioneers , with goals to reach each month.. " " " " do they have d.o.

  , c.o., zone servants , etc.etc.. " " " " where in the christian greek scriptures is the word " organisation" applied to christianity.

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  The OP is a troll post. Watchtower has addressed those questions.
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  Bible is inspired of God??????

  by Crazyguy in

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  is there anything in the bible that makes you believe that some or all the writings in the bible are inspired from god?.

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  The problem I have is that if the holy spirit is directing the organization today to be organizational, why didn't it do that back in the first century and with Israel?

  Why didn't it anticipate the problems that would exist today and deal with them?

  Why are there dates problems when they should have made a calendar from Adam or Noah?

  Why the gap between John and now?

  The Bible is inspired of God but people don't understand what inspired means. It means where did the idea come from.

  It is written about God's people and the things that God did and taught. That is the basis for the writings. That makes it inspired, but not inerrant or right.
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  Official reason vs real reason

  by Rattigan350 in

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  there has been many changes in the past decade, but there is a difference between the stated reason and what we perceive as the real reason.. those who have access to the letters can fill in some of the stated reasons or benefits.

  it is like they are afraid of telling the truth.

  stating that they are making business decisions for monetary reasons.

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  There has been many changes in the past decade, but there is a difference between the stated reason and what we perceive as the real reason.

  Those who have access to the letters can fill in some of the stated reasons or benefits. It is like they are afraid of telling the truth. Stating that they are making business decisions for monetary reasons. Like they are afraid that people will think that they lost Jehovah's blessing, if they are in want of all of the gold in the world.

  1990: Voluntary donation arrangement for literature

  Official reason was simplification and not peddlers of the word of God

  Real reason: so as not to have to collect or pay sales tax on literature.

  1994 Food being provided at assemblies ended

  Obviously to save money because people were abusing the provision and not donation enough

  2002 Subscription ended

  Don't know if a reason was given, but it would seem to save on postage, and to limit the literature at the time, however that is no longer the case as it is available on the net.

  2005: first reduction in magazine production; monthy Awake & monthy in-house WT

  stated reasons: less definitions of words, better for translations

  real reasons: to cut back on magazine production. Fewer Study copies need to be printed

  2006: Bethel layoffs begin

  Stated reason: to put more people in the preaching work.

  Real reason: Bethelites are expensive and there is cutting back

  2007: change to 30 minute Public Talk

  Possible reasons: more congregations can share halls, lower utilities.

  Additional real reasons: They are boring and a waste of time.

  2009: Elimination of Book Study as separate meeting

  Stated reasons or benefits: a night for family worship

  Real Reasons: More congregations can use the Hall as there will be one less night used for the book study, less obligation for publishers to travel to meetings, less material covered in the book study so fewer books need to be made to cover it, and reuse more books, less use and abuse of homes.

  2010: WTS begins closing/merging Branch facilities and selling branch properties

  No reason stated but possibly to get cash and cut expenses.

  2011: Drop to 30 hours in required auxiliary hours

  Stated reason: more can have meeting with CO

  Reason: To get more 10,20,30 hour publishers to give more time and think they are doing something great

  2011: Gilead stops accepting missionaries

  Don't know of a reason, but there is this new or renamed school for Kingdom evangelizers.

  2013: reduction in size of magazines/ Putting more on internet

  stated reasons: more people are using the internet and translate to more languages.

  Real Reasons: internet is free, save money but cutting costs
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  Top 10: Apostate Power Rankings -Who are/were the best apostates?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  i only know a few like franz.

  i rank him #1. then theres that jwsurvey guy and jwfacts guy.

  and the silent lambs lady.

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  Best as in what way?

  most outspoken?

  That would be Danny Haszard and Kent Steinhaug, James Penton.

  Or best at getting the message across without drawing attention or raising flags?

  Not sure.
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  How Many Circuit Overseers And District Overseers Really Believe The Governing Body Is Really The Faithful and Discreet Slave and That The Watchtower Is God's Earthly Organization?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i'm thinking around 20% have serious doubts and 99% have some doubts but keep them from becoming conscious to avoid cognitive dissonance.

  this is becoming increasingly harder to do over the fact that the governing body are showing their true colors and the contridictions are so great..

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  They have to do the bidding of the Governing body or they will be replaced with ones that will.
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  Bullet list of major (recent) changes

  by RN in

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  it is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.

  his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.

  when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.

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  and removing the publisher monthly totals from the KM.