Posts by Defianttruth

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how long before you felt refreshed and new?

by losingit in

waking up from jw-land is an extremely exhausting process.

about 3 years ago, i attended a month-long institute for grad school students.

during this time, i was surrounded by people from all over the united states and had active, deep conversations with so many about personal topics, such as religion and divorce.

Defianttruth

LI

I hope you get to feeling better. I hate to see people hurting. A little sunshine never hurt anyone.

Regards,

Defiant.

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My Experience and how I finally let myself see the truth

by OneEyedJoe in

first off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.

if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.

to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.

Defianttruth

OEJ

The first step here is to breath. In and out slowly and gather your situation.

Step two is do not do anything rash or quick. This may take a while. My wife is so important to me I would do whatever it takes to keep her. I don't know how you feel, but it sounds like you love her. Basically you can rip off the bandaid or you can do it hair by hair. The amazing thing is this is your choice on how to do this. Up until now you might not have much experience in making choices outside of JW rules. I would suggest a lot of thinking before a little action. I'm not telling you what to do, but this is a game off chess. Don't kill your Queen until the time comes. You only have one.

The only way I can help you is to tell you there is a bunch of people somewhere in cyber-space who are on your side here. This is kind of like finding out you have cancer. It can be hard to accept and the treatments may not be fun, but you have options and support. We only want you to be healthy.

Regards,

Defiant.

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What are your turn offs in a guy or girl?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

one of them is nose rings/piercings.

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Defianttruth

I'm married and not looking so as a person who found a good mate I'll respond.

Every person in this world has qualities you don't like. If you don't believe me hang around and you will find them. I wouldn't look for the one or two things you hate in an individual. I would look for the person who has the most of your turn ons and not focus on the negativity. I for one hate mouth breathers. I kid you not if I can hear some one breathing it drives me crazy. Guess what! My beautiful wife about two times a year through no fault of her own falls into this line. Drives me nuts. When this time comes I simply look at the positive and move on with life.

I think an earlier poster said they liked people who had a passion for life. So true. I once had a girl friend who I was really into at the time. I bought us a trip to Disney. She said it was her favorite place. The whole time she frowned and was honestly boring. I asked her what was wrong she said, "I did something a week ago that made her angry" so for two days of our trip she walked around in a fog to prove a point. How little of her. I figured if she couldn't move on and have a good time at her favorite place on Earth how would she deal with real life problems. So I bought her a bus ticket home and went to the Keys for the rest of the week. Never looked back. I guess what I'm trying to say is my partner must know how to have a good time. I love having fun. My wife does know how to have fun. She's like Will Ferrel with a nice rack. (She would laugh at that. I'll have to tell her later)

Try and accept honesty it helps so much in this situation. My wife hates, hates,hates the way I eat ribs. I can't help it. Are you kidding me? How can one hold bone wrapped in meat in hand and not go all caveman on the said food? She told me she hates it so I order something else until guys night out. Then we act like cavemen together. Understand every person has turn offs and ever person commits them.

Defiant.

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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

by pixel in

hello, you read it here first!.

governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

to all congregations.

Defianttruth

It may be a legal maneuver, but won't make that much difference in the end. Here's your example.

A manager at a fast food chain touches a young employee. The CEO responds in court the Corp is not responsible because the district manager hired the store manager. A first year law student would say, "Who appointed the distric manager? You?" Okay so the Corp is at fault. Financially it doesn't make a difference. Civicly one can not be held responsible for others actions. I think this is a information, command flow issue.

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May 15, 2014 WT: "God will intervene on behalf of his people"

by cultBgone in

i borrowed this mag as i hadn't looked at one in several years.

of course i had to review "are you moving ahead with jehovah's organization?".

paragraph 4 under heading "satanic action leads to armageddon" states:.

Defianttruth

Try this on for size. The GB are The self proclaimed mouth piece for God. Yet, he can not help them out of printing things that prove they are idiots. I think if God ever wanted to help the WT he would have protected them (as a group) from printing the following.

1. Anything on how to help sex abuse victims except call the police immediately.

2. The world will end on this date,

A. No this date

B. Sorry we were confused, defiantly this date

C.-Y. Now the message is clear this Date

Z. Okay, we honestly don't know, but soon(Tm)

3. If being raped at gun point one must scream or that person is a guilty party, and if one's skirt is more than 40 percent above ankle. The rape is clearly at fault with the individual. (Reminds me to check the length of my kilt before the Scottish Games this year)

4. The cost of our literature production is to high for negros, but there's hope. If you find yourself with the affliction of a race other than of European, One can pray very hard and God will turn that person white as rice.

5. Bout a million more, but I'm to busy. I'm sure others can add more.

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Interesting approach to FDS.

by Defianttruth in

a few months ago, i had a customer call me and said my bid was different from my first quote by 40 percent.

i was very confused because i never gave a quote outside of the formal bid.

he told me the first "salesman" he talked to had given him the quote.

Defianttruth

Thank you designs.

Phizzy. Yes. The first time. The next time I put my gloves up and started to move.

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Interesting approach to FDS.

by Defianttruth in

a few months ago, i had a customer call me and said my bid was different from my first quote by 40 percent.

i was very confused because i never gave a quote outside of the formal bid.

he told me the first "salesman" he talked to had given him the quote.

Defianttruth

Disfellowshipped? I fired him nothing personal. I would have the guy over and drink a beer with him. Unfortunately, he tied my hands. What could I have said to my customer? The only way I could save face was to fire him. BTW. Nothing motivates production like dragging a body across the floor every once in a while. I'm the nicest boss in the world. I have almost zero turn over. This is on him and he knows it. He is young and had to learn a lesson the hard way. Lord knows I have. I was once fired for bidding a contract against a company I was working for at the time. Lesson learned the next time I used my wife's maiden name to start an llc so I could bid in secret. life's like boxing the stupid get knocked out, the smart ones learn to put their gloves up and keep moving.

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Interesting approach to FDS.

by Defianttruth in

a few months ago, i had a customer call me and said my bid was different from my first quote by 40 percent.

i was very confused because i never gave a quote outside of the formal bid.

he told me the first "salesman" he talked to had given him the quote.

Defianttruth

Sorry designs I'm ignorant on this subject. What materials could I read to learn more?

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Interesting approach to FDS.

by Defianttruth in

a few months ago, i had a customer call me and said my bid was different from my first quote by 40 percent.

i was very confused because i never gave a quote outside of the formal bid.

he told me the first "salesman" he talked to had given him the quote.

Defianttruth

I wrote this on my phone waiting for an airplane please excuse the grammar and spelling.

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Interesting approach to FDS.

by Defianttruth in

a few months ago, i had a customer call me and said my bid was different from my first quote by 40 percent.

i was very confused because i never gave a quote outside of the formal bid.

he told me the first "salesman" he talked to had given him the quote.

Defianttruth

A few months ago, I had a customer call me and said my bid was different from my first quote by 40 percent. I was very confused because I never gave a quote outside of the formal bid. He told me the first "salesman" he talked to had given him the quote. I was very furstrated with this so I talked to my sales team and everyone denied giving a verbal quote. Upon further research, I found it was one of my techs who had quoted this stupid first quote. A little back ground on the tech. He is super smart, devoted to his job, and the second person at work everyday. I'm the first. For the last year or so, he had been my"superstar" tech. I had even talked to him personally about being the next person on the sales team. He wanted this badly. The sales guys at least double the techs pay and one sales guy triples the techs pay. When I called him to talk to me about this he came in looking like a child about to get a scolding. He reassured me his heart was in the right place and he was just trying to prove his worth. I had pretty much already made the determination that he would be terminated. I just wanted to give him a chance to tell his side. In the end, I had to let him go. Really upset me to do it, but he made his bed.

He got me to thinking. The GB claimed the anointed was the FDS for about 80 years. Now, the GB claim they are the FDS alone. More accurately they will be appointed the FDS. Meanwhile, they still use the title presumptuously. If we look at similar scenarios, we can see how this would work out in other circumstances.

The first, circumstance will be socially. Let's say Bob and Suzy have been dating for 5 years. They are madly in love with each other. Bob has bought a ring and has informally discussed marriage with Suzy. He starts going around town telling people he and Suzy are engaged. He has never formally asked for Suzy's hand in marriage or given her the ring. How do you think Suzy will feel when everyone starts to congratulate her on her engagement? Will she say it is okay because she and Bob were heading down that road anyway? After all, she would have said yes if he would asked her first. I am no expert on women, but I can say even with my limited knowledge on the strange alien creatures, sorry I meant wife and daughters, I live with currently. Bob would be in a heap of trouble.

The second circumstance is civil. George is a nephew of the King. He has been under the kings rule all of his life. The King has given George different assignments through out his service to the King. George is very efficient and fastidiuos. The King plans to make him a Lord one day or maybe even a Govenor of one of his territories. One day when speaking to his territorial ambassador the King is informed the territories Govenor has been treating the people of the territory horribly. The king's father had won a battle for the territory years ago and peace had ruled between the two lands for years and now the territory was talking war over the Kings's oppressive rule. The King asks the ambassador what has happened in the territory. The ambassador replies with offenses including the children of the territory being raped by the nephews men with no real punishments, needlessly casting family members out of the territories for made up laws of the Nephew and never allowing these ones to return home, and not allowing the people of the territory to receive medical help with many needless deaths. The King is outraged and says his son, The Prince, is the rightful ruler of that territory why have you been listening to my nephew? The ambassador replies the Nephew has said the Prince is a great guy, but because we are a territory and not a providence we are not subjects of the Prince, but we must obey every word of the Nephew the Governor. The King explains he never sent the Nephew to be Governor. He only sent him to make an accounting of the territories grain holds. The King looks at his highest General and commands him to fetch his nephew immediately. What do you think the King would say? Would he be okay with his nephew for treating the subjects so poorly they were now talking of war? Would the King be okay with the nephew usurping the Princes authority?