Posts by Saintbertholdt

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Lurkers: Is it true that no servant of Jehovah in the bible celebrated birthdays?

by juandefiero in

did you know that job's family celebrated birthdays?

the word translated "his own day" at job 1:4 is the same word translated "day of his birth" in job 3:1. .

seems deceptive, does it not, to change that translation.

Saintbertholdt

Russell was moving away from any sort of inter denominational Christian fellowship by the end of his career/life. Rutherford just continued the process to its logical conclusion: That being the total destruction of any form of ecumenical feelings between the Bible students and all other Christian denominations. This was done to demarcate the separateness and exclusivity of the Bible students.

That same attitude is cultivated in Jehovah's Witnesses today. If Christians have a practice or a new trend then Jehovah's Witnesses are automatically suspicious even if the Governing Body has made no specific pronouncement on the matter. Why? Because the idea of separateness is what counts and correctness or being reasonable is secondary. Case and point: Clambake just posted a topic where his wife and the congregation held a party on January 2 but she could not go to the Nov 15 end of year company shindig. Its all about separateness. The idea that you're in a new spiritual Israel and like the Israel of the OT you have to keep away from everybody and everything because Yahweh will have a conniption fit if you don't.

The practices the Witnesses object to are actually irrelevant. Its just done to contradict and disagree with every other denomination.

BTW I love your avatar and the word ecumenical, therefore a quote by Jack Sparrow: [to Weatherby Swann]

"I think we've all arrived at a very special place... spiritually, ecumenically... grammatically."

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Question about the number 2,520 and the book “New Heavens and a New Earth” (1953)

by Hecce in

question about the number 2,520 and the book “new heavens and a new earth” (1953).

there is a footnote on page 138 of this book; it has to do with the number 2,520 being a perfect number and the result of multiplying the four perfect numbers in sequence.

i have done the math and it works.

Saintbertholdt

This is just one of those I have to bookmark.

Numerology. Great!

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Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

Saintbertholdt

Clambake, here are topics on JWN that people have responded to in the past 24 hours:

Will Western Democratic Nations , someday rue the day they welcomed Muslim migrants / Asylum seekers in their midst?
Is reality getting a right-wing bias? (the lefts tea-party moment)
Results of an international survey - Love, Health, Money, Power etc, what do you most want in life?
David Bowie
Powerball Jackpot up to 1.3 Billion Dollars. Do you think the governing body bought any tickets?
Cannabis And the Brain (The risk factors)

But you're on to Cofty's posts specifically because its about very solid evidence for evolution.

You're being confronted with a paradigm shift.

What are you going to do about it?

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Watchtower financial yearbook statements 1989-2016

by the comet in

since the 2016 yearbook yearbook was released i've been tearing through the numbers, trying to figure a few things out.

i have several different projects i'm working on, and this is one of them.

i looked through all the yearbooks from the 1989 one through 2016, the only thing they really state about money is how much they spent on; special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers.

Saintbertholdt

Sooooo the Comet,

When can we see those tabulated figures?

Pretty please...

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Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

Saintbertholdt

If anyone is truly interested in the subject enroll in your local university or read a book because this is all becoming quite annoying.

Clambake, you're obviously speaking for yourself. But I guess its irritating being confronted with evidence which just can't be explained away.

Just chillax man, its a couple of threads in an ocean of diversity.

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Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

Saintbertholdt

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Alan Rickman's Passing

by TipsyMangoTea in

alan rickman, best known to my generation as prof. severus snape from the harry potter film franchise, has passed away due to cancer at the age of 69.. growing up with a witness mother, anything related to science fiction and fantasy was looked down upon, so, naturally, i was a rebel rebel (oh david bowie...).. just wanted to let any potterheads know the news and that even if you feel like you'll never be free of the deadly watchtower, you're not alone and there's hope.. always..

Saintbertholdt

Am saddened to hear of this. Kind of eerie that he too passed away from cancer at 69... just like Bowie.

In the 70's many well known pop artists died of drug overdoses at 27.

Today the well known die at 69... from cancer.

How things have changed.

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Your favorite Bible version / translation

by lumberjack in

jw
friends

which one is your favorite?

Saintbertholdt

From the Word on the Street:

Genesis 1:1-3
First off, nothing. No light, no time, no substance, no matter. Second off, God starts it all up and WHAP! Stuff everywhere! The cosmos in chaos: no shape, no form, no function—just darkness ... total. And floating above it all, God’s Holy Spirit, ready to play. Day one: Then God’s voice booms out, ‘Lights!’ and, from nowhere, light floods the skies and ‘night’ is swept off the scene.

Psalm 34:1-9
Gonna go on about you, 24/7;
Applaud, go overboard, drown out heaven.Gonna name-drop that I know you;
My soul’s gonna show off about you,

So, come on, let’s amplify, let’s turn it right up!
Rave on! Let’s give it up for God; let’s give it up.
I sought you out: you were aready calling, sorting my anxiety,
Look him in the face- you’ll glisten with God.You’ll gleam, your face’ll scream, “GOD!”
Joe next door cries out to God- gets his voice heard,Situation sorted, agony aborted

God’s angel sets up base camp where “respect” is the word;
Give God respect: you can fully expect safe passage to the top.
Go on, taste how good God is, feel how strong;
Look how stunning; smell how pure; listen to the overture
And sing along, as he sets your senses soaring!
So hide, deep down inside; confide in him-
You’ll always know what content meant;
You give God respect,
You’ll miss out on nothing you need-
we’re talking contentment!

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Alan Rickman's Passing

by TipsyMangoTea in

alan rickman, best known to my generation as prof. severus snape from the harry potter film franchise, has passed away due to cancer at the age of 69.. growing up with a witness mother, anything related to science fiction and fantasy was looked down upon, so, naturally, i was a rebel rebel (oh david bowie...).. just wanted to let any potterheads know the news and that even if you feel like you'll never be free of the deadly watchtower, you're not alone and there's hope.. always..

Saintbertholdt

From Die hard:

Holly Gennero McClane: After all your posturing, all your little speeches, you're nothing but a common thief.

Hans Gruber: I am an exceptional thief, Mrs. McClane. And since I'm moving up to kidnapping, you should be more polite.

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Who is your favourite thinker?

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

having recently read orwells 1984, i was impressed with how he understood that both politicians and people abuse language.

this further confirmed to me how the w.t had deceived me by using words to distort reality.

the book 1984, also contains many other great thoughts of george orwell.. of course there have been many other great thinkers, buddah, darwin, freud, einstein and marx come to mind.

Saintbertholdt

The opening to Baudrillard's simulations - "The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth - it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true." He attributes it to Ecclesiastes, but its nowhere to be found :)