Posts by Saintbertholdt

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Satanic Temple’s Seven Tenets - Makes 10 Commandments Sound Facile

by cofty in

the so-called 10 commandments are a post-biblical construct.... there is an elohist list at exodus 20 and a yahwist one at exodus 34 that contains such gems as "you shall not cook a kid in its mother’s milk.".

any intelligent adult could create a more useful list of ethical precepts before the end of a coffee break.. it is interesting to compare the satanic temple's seven tenets.

i think you might agree that it makes yahweh's rules look like they were written by a bronze age power-hungry, misogynistic priest.

Saintbertholdt

Clambake you wrote: I use to have an interest in the Occult and from my research this so called Satanism it was just an extreme form of atheism which seemed more interested in pissing people off than being an actual religion.

Oh its an actual religion all right.

A lot of the so called rituals were actually just developed as a mockery of Christianity. Goats instead of sheep, Drinking blood as oppose to kosor diet, inverted cross, etc etc.

Clambake that is Devil worship or in other words Inverse Christianity, not Satanism.

Historically the well known religions that demanded blood sacrifices were the Abrahamic religions. Today those blood sacrifices are mostly performed by 16 year old kids who think they are doing the will of the Devil by killing a cat. Their background is Christianity, which they think is true and that's why they do idiotic things as an act of rebellion. They get their ideas from the OT.

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Starlight in a Young Universe

by Perry in

the scientific method begins with a faith statement called a hypothesis, and then goes on to look for evidence, for or against support of the faith statement.. secular materialists often change their ideas on exactly how things have made themselves, but never whether they did.. the manifesto for this self imposed mental ban seems to be summed up by geneticist richard lewontin:.

‘our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural.

we take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.. it is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.

Saintbertholdt

Hi there Perry,
Ignore the previous post as it was incomplete. Omissions are marked in red.
You quoted an article called: DNA in Dinosaur Bones from the Institute for Creation Research. Early on in the article the author/s wrote: "Fossil experts have studied original dinosaur tissues and biochemicals for a long time. When tyrannosaur and hadrosaur bones from Montana were viewed under a microscope, they were found to harbor fresh-looking bone cells called osteocytes. Researchers even verified original—not mineralized—dinosaur proteins called collagen and elastin in 2009." The researcher principally responsible for this discovery was Mary Schweitzer. She acted upon a suggestion by her mentor Jack Horner after a serendipitous discovery. I assume you accept her findings as her papers were referenced multiple times in the above quoted article.

In 2014 she co-authored a paper called: Synchrotron Chemical and Structural Analysis of Tyrannosaurus rex Blood Vessels: The Contribution of Collagen Hypercrosslinking to Tissue Longevity

In the paper the researchers came to the following conclusions:

T-Rex tasted just like chicken. The collagen corresponded to the type found in chickens and so it strengthens the hypothesis that the therapod dinosaurs were the ancestors of birds.
They also concluded that what was thought initially to be red blood vessels turned out to be an Iron mineral (goethite).
Lastly this mineral was possibly responsible for the preservation of the collagen in the first place through two possible chemical pathways.

Footnote: Mary Schweitzer is an evangelical Christian.

Also see: God of the gaps

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Starlight in a Young Universe

by Perry in

the scientific method begins with a faith statement called a hypothesis, and then goes on to look for evidence, for or against support of the faith statement.. secular materialists often change their ideas on exactly how things have made themselves, but never whether they did.. the manifesto for this self imposed mental ban seems to be summed up by geneticist richard lewontin:.

‘our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural.

we take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.. it is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.

Saintbertholdt

Hi there Perry,

You quoted an article called: DNA in Dinosaur Bones from the Institute for Creation Research. Early on in the article the author/s wrote: "Fossil experts have studied original dinosaur tissues and biochemicals for a long time. When tyrannosaur and hadrosaur bones from Montana were viewed under a microscope, they were found to harbor fresh-looking bone cells called osteocytes. Researchers even verified original—not mineralized—dinosaur proteins called collagen and elastin in 2009."

In 2014 she co-authored a paper called: Synchrotron Chemical and Structural Analysis of Tyrannosaurus rex Blood Vessels: The Contribution of Collagen Hypercrosslinking to Tissue Longevity

In the paper the researchers came to the following conclusions:

T-Rex tasted just like chicken. The collagen corresponded to the type found in chickens and so it strengthens the hypothesis that the therapod dinosaurs were the ancestors of birds.
They also concluded that what was thought initially to be red blood vessels turned out to be an Iron mineral (goethite).
Lastly this mineral was possibly responsible for the preservation of the collagen in the first place through two possible chemical pathways.

Footnote: Mary Schweitzer is an evangelical Christian.

Also see: God of the gaps

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Proof the earth can be flat

by slimboyfat in

"our perception of reality has more to do with what is going on in here (our brain) than what's going on out there (in the world).".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g221y.

is it a dark square or a light square?

Saintbertholdt

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick

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Office Jargon, drives me nuts

by punkofnice in

'granular' seems to be the latest buzz word going around my office.

previously it was 'appetite'.. abstract words that appear to be designed to make the person saying it appear powerful and part of the 'team'.. as lord sugar has observed before; why not just speak english and say what you mean.. office jargon really annoys me.

i had enough loaded language and jargon in the disgusting jw cult..

Saintbertholdt

Well you should cultivate an enthusiastic appetite for the unifying yet sometimes granular nature of corporate communication synergy. It is a fact that the tangential convergence of linguistic tendencies throughout the corporate structure energizes it, so that the focus can be reshifted to the underlying mission and vision driving the dynamic to the bleeding technological edge, resulting in greater economies of scale and gains for the investor, so much so that they can hardly count.

Talk at you later.

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You don't paint the rooms on the Titanic

by TTWSYF in

this was the line my nephew gave me regarding why jws don't give alms.

i had several rebuttals to give him, but didn't.

i was hoping for some comments from this board.

Saintbertholdt

Divergent,
Can a hungry person eat a Bible?

It would seem that you can:

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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

by paul from cleveland in

is it just me?

Saintbertholdt

First it starts with evolution - next thing we know you'll be promoting science!!!

Look evolution is one thing, but promoting science is where I draw the line.

So go ahead, make my day...

Image result for dirty harry

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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

by paul from cleveland in

is it just me?

Saintbertholdt

TheOldHippie,
Strange, the, that some of the foremost of them admit that if there is one thing they are, then it is being great story tellers.

There is nothing like a good story. And if it turns out to be true, Wow!

Now OldHippie, you promised the forum we'd all go the lake for the weekend and smoke some premo shit.

When are you going to deliver? I even bought a new bong.

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for those still interested in bible discussion check out this website

by nowwhat? in

http://www.discussthetruth.com/.

it's an objective forum in association with beroean pickets.

for those like me who are fed up with the organization but still believe in gods word.. snarky comments to follow!

Saintbertholdt

Oh I wont be snarky. Shame on you.

Its cool as long as the forum doesn't start to offer Bible studies.

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You don't paint the rooms on the Titanic

by TTWSYF in

this was the line my nephew gave me regarding why jws don't give alms.

i had several rebuttals to give him, but didn't.

i was hoping for some comments from this board.

Saintbertholdt

You don't paint the rooms on the Titanic

If this system is by analogy the Titanic and is sinking and everybody is therefore looking for a lifeboat, I guess.what he is saying is that we should support Elon Musk to settle on Mars, right? But instead you now have people on the deck of the Titanic preaching about the iceberg. And what about the band that played on the deck? Oh we have the pop-star Prince today, silly me.Well at least in 80 years time there will be a movie about the incident with stunning special effects, with a mediocre love story and a so so theme tune. Meh, I can wait for the movie... In the meantime I'm watching Space-ex vidoes on YouTube.