Saintbertholdt

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  Did anyone see Jackson state "celebrating Christmas not a df'ing offence"?

  by Crazyguy in

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  i have seen posts on several you tube sites stating that jackson said during his rc testimony that jw's don't shun, celebrating christmas is not a disfellowshipping offence, birthdays are ok and ones doesn't have to agree with jw doctrine.

  i have read most of the posts on other threads while and after his testimony but never read any of this?

  did he really say these things or is someone on the net just stirring up some bs?.

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  Saintbertholdt

  My understanding is as follows: Geoffrey Jackson could have proclaimed that celebrating your birthday while smoking a stogy was in perfect harmony with scripture, it would actually not mean a thing and here's why.

  Unless the governing body met and backed up his claim with a vote and subsequently had the 'new light' published, its just one mans opinion.

  The governing body are only G.O.D. when they meet. Sort of like how the power rangers can only transform into Megazord when they physically get together. Or like the Pope who is only infallible when he makes a papal decree.

  There are rules to these things you know.
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  Last night earthquake

  by Mandrake in

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  last night i was in my car returning to santiago from vina del mar (the seaside) and waiting the green light the 8.4 earthquake started!

  it lasted 2 minutes!!!

  some people were scared, most acted calmly... so that brings to my memory what was to be a jw in the most seismic country in the world!

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  Saintbertholdt

  I hope things normalize as soon as possible for you and your fellow Chileans.

  May your country and countrymen rise to any and all challenges.

  Kind regards
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  Where is this evil spirit from?

  by iconoclastic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many believe in the wonderful drama of evolution (life evolving from non-life through flower/fruit beautiful trees and variety of species, reaching homo sapiens and finally returning to non-life) through various processes such as mutation, adaptation, natural selection .... yet there is an evil spirit working against the very spirit of the evolution, producing ironical results in too large a scale.

  to mention a few:.

  1) the really superior beings are kept sidelined (http://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/07/17-ways-that-science-proves-women-are-superior-to-men/).

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  Saintbertholdt

  Thanks Cofty,

  I might join :) We all have our phases before we get our wings.

  
  
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  Where is this evil spirit from?

  by iconoclastic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many believe in the wonderful drama of evolution (life evolving from non-life through flower/fruit beautiful trees and variety of species, reaching homo sapiens and finally returning to non-life) through various processes such as mutation, adaptation, natural selection .... yet there is an evil spirit working against the very spirit of the evolution, producing ironical results in too large a scale.

  to mention a few:.

  1) the really superior beings are kept sidelined (http://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/07/17-ways-that-science-proves-women-are-superior-to-men/).

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  Saintbertholdt

  The BK cult must have a system for counting time
  

  Do you know anything about the BK cult?

  Iconoclastic writes he does not believe in a literal creationist view but also rejects evolution.

  So how did everything get here?

  Is it Brain in a bottle connected to a VR simulation philosophy?
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  Where is this evil spirit from?

  by iconoclastic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many believe in the wonderful drama of evolution (life evolving from non-life through flower/fruit beautiful trees and variety of species, reaching homo sapiens and finally returning to non-life) through various processes such as mutation, adaptation, natural selection .... yet there is an evil spirit working against the very spirit of the evolution, producing ironical results in too large a scale.

  to mention a few:.

  1) the really superior beings are kept sidelined (http://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/07/17-ways-that-science-proves-women-are-superior-to-men/).

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  Saintbertholdt

  Thus religions nor evolution are the answer.

  You know what evolution says about the existence of God?

  Absolutely nothing. It is neither for or against it.

  God could have set the whole universe in motion and Universal Darwinism is just a fundamental algorithm that is used to drive the entire process.

  What is interesting though is what it would say about the fundamental nature of God.
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  Where is this evil spirit from?

  by iconoclastic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many believe in the wonderful drama of evolution (life evolving from non-life through flower/fruit beautiful trees and variety of species, reaching homo sapiens and finally returning to non-life) through various processes such as mutation, adaptation, natural selection .... yet there is an evil spirit working against the very spirit of the evolution, producing ironical results in too large a scale.

  to mention a few:.

  1) the really superior beings are kept sidelined (http://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/07/17-ways-that-science-proves-women-are-superior-to-men/).

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  Saintbertholdt

  What if we are awakened to another state of consciousness of different plane/dimension.
  

  Sounds a bit like Plato's cave.

  Ths is not to say that this world is not real, but to show the limitations of our physical senses which some of the people view them as ultimate source of knowledge/experience.

  Lets assume you are absolutely correct. One is in a dream/simulation until one awakens.

  Even if that were the case the dream/simulation still has rules and one still has to play the game according to those rules. Whether literal or a dream, the outcome is still the same. You have to play the game optimally and therefore you have to understand the parameters and limits. No-one explained the rules so the best way to figure them out is to test for rules e.g. experimentation and observation.

  I do not take the Genesis account of creation which is the fabrication of later writers, according to Jeremiah 7:22; 8:8

  Then why are you such a skeptic when it comes to evolution? It seems that it forms a part of the fundamental rule set. The evolutionary algorithm is being observed in all disciplines. Anywhere where entropy and information enthalpy interact (which is everywhere), you have the potential to observe evolution.
  
  
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  Where is this evil spirit from?

  by iconoclastic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many believe in the wonderful drama of evolution (life evolving from non-life through flower/fruit beautiful trees and variety of species, reaching homo sapiens and finally returning to non-life) through various processes such as mutation, adaptation, natural selection .... yet there is an evil spirit working against the very spirit of the evolution, producing ironical results in too large a scale.

  to mention a few:.

  1) the really superior beings are kept sidelined (http://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/07/17-ways-that-science-proves-women-are-superior-to-men/).

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  Saintbertholdt

  The books Cofty recommended to me have been incredible learning experiences
  

  Yeah Cofty takes evolution seriously serious.

  He checks every evolution comment for accuracy :)

  Universal Darwinism is my pet love. Its popping up everywhere in almost all disciplines.
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  Generation changes chart - 3rd edition

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started working on this chart 5 years ago.

  i didn't think i'd have to update it again so soon.. .

  linky in case image doesn't show below.

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  Saintbertholdt

  I like the 1979 Watchtower. Almost like celebrating a birthday.

  And the 1897 reference. They've come a long way with this damn generation.

  And the 1995 teaching Ah hahahahahahaha

  Good work and well done.
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  Generation changes chart - 3rd edition

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started working on this chart 5 years ago.

  i didn't think i'd have to update it again so soon.. .

  linky in case image doesn't show below.

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  Saintbertholdt

  I posted the direct link.

  Where? :)

  Oh.... on the pic itself.... um thanks. Report back when I've read it.
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  Generation changes chart - 3rd edition

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started working on this chart 5 years ago.

  i didn't think i'd have to update it again so soon.. .

  linky in case image doesn't show below.

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  Saintbertholdt

  Stop holding out, I need to print it and hang it on my wall like the 'Divine plan of the ages' pyramid.