Making this a problem or something to be shocked about - I just don't get it. Maybe you still use cash to a great extent in the US? I don't know. But I do know that here in Europe cash is used to only a very very small extent. If a child comes around to my house selling cookies, or selling the Sunday newspaper, there is a wild chase around the house to try to find some cash, and ususlly we don't succeed. At the assemblies, only very few carry cash. So why not use machines? I seriously don't get the exitement.
TheOldHippie
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ATMs in assembly halls
by Xanthippe ini only heard about these atms last year on this forum.
the poster seemed to be saying they are for donating only, is that correct?
absolutely gobsmacked over this, don't the brothers see any correlation between this and the likes of jimmy swaggart?
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Statement by David Clohessy, Director of SNAP: JWs predator escapes consequences
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.snapnetwork.org/pa_jehovah_witness_predator_escapes_consequences .
pa--jehovah witness predator escapes consequences .
posted on snap website by barbara dorris on march 01, 2014 flag .
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TheOldHippie
North Korean officials have repeatedly stated in North Korea there are no homosexuals. Following their line of thought, one might wonder why, and also make a rather qualified guess at what the punishment for paedoes would be ..................
Up against the wall.
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Will the jw's get all excited about Russia in the Ukraine?
by hoser inusually when world events like this take place the dubs start into how the end must be so close they can almost taste it.
maybe there will be some speculation about the king of the north and south again.
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TheOldHippie
JWs will not get exited. But the evangelicals at my work ARE exited and preparing for a great war, and one of them is constantly checking if there are any troop movements towards Israel.
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Will the jw's get all excited about Russia in the Ukraine?
by hoser inusually when world events like this take place the dubs start into how the end must be so close they can almost taste it.
maybe there will be some speculation about the king of the north and south again.
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TheOldHippie
conversation between Knorr and Fredrick the Great: " well, the Great Crowd is not so great after all".
Actually it was The Judge who said that.
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Another day, another JW child rapist bust - Jeffrey Buzzard
by zed is dead inhere is the article, i can't make it clickable, and would appreciate if someone would do that for me.
http://www.fortwayne.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/fw/20130313/news/320132863/1005.
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TheOldHippie
Every abuser should get his/her judgment, no doubt - but where does it say he was a JW? It isn't mentioned in the newspaper cuttings?
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Every JW should pay attention to Steven Pinker's lecture: A History of Violence
by cognisonance incame across this lecutre (or alternatively you can read the transcript) in a class from yale on moralities of everyday life:.
a history of violence edge master class 2011some excepts:.
"believe it or notand i know most people do notviolence has been in decline over long stretches of time, and we may be living in the most peaceful time in our species' existence.".
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TheOldHippie
"Things have never been better."
That is perhaps to move slightly too much in the opposite direction. At least, one should be careful not to shout it out loud in the gates of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, North Korea, Central America, Colombia, Zimbabwe, Egypt, Palestine, Ukraine etc. etc.
Lest it be too much of "us and here" versus "them and there".
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Curious change in December 15 Study Article
by Bobcat ini ran across a change between the printed edition of the december 15, 2013 wt study edition and the magazine as a pdf download from the jw.org website.. whether the change amounts to much, i'm not sure.
but it is curious.
the change is in paragraph 16 on page 15:.
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TheOldHippie
Same change in other languages too. Also inh the present book study book (Draw Close).
By the way, did anyone notice the "Research Guide 2014" available as a pdf on jw.org?
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Is This Current Governing Body As Bad As Previous Ones!
by minimus inor are they all the same?
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TheOldHippie
"3rd world countries love dictators."
Yeah, sure ......... Go ask the people of Argentine, Chile, Nicaragua, and all the colonies why they revolted and died by the thousands to combat the generals and juntas. Go ask the people of Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, El Salvador etc. why former guerilla leaders are now presidents or runners-up.
"love dictators" - shame on you!
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Interview with an apostate: Bruja-del-Sol
by Bruja-del-Sol intell us a little about yourself and your family.. im a 45 year old female.
married age 18 to another jw (pos son), became the mother of two wonderful children, girl and boy (now adults), divorced and dfd when i was 33 years old and since 2008 married to my first love who used to be my classmate when i was 16 (but got kicked out of my life by my dad b/c he wasnt a jw).. were you a born in or a convert?.
my grandmother from fathers side, my parents, 2 of my 3 sisters and their husbands (one is an elder) and kids, my brother and his wife and children, and the wifes of my two uncles are all still jw (uncles both have faded, but their cult personas are still intact, unfortunately).
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TheOldHippie
Very sad to see how small personal disagreements can lead to such tragic results .............
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Just a little note now that Nelson Mandela's will is read
by TheOldHippie innelson mandela shared with his first wife, evelyn, a passionate commitment to a cause.
evelyn, who has died aged 82, was a jehovah's witness with no interest in politics.. as mandela wrote in his autobiography, long walk to freedom: "when i would tell her that i was serving the nation, she would reply that serving god was above serving the nation.
a man and woman who hold such different views of their respective roles in life cannot remain close.
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TheOldHippie
Nelson Mandela shared with his first wife, Evelyn, a passionate commitment to a cause. Unfortunately, it was not the same cause. Evelyn, who has died aged 82, was a Jehovah's Witness with no interest in politics.
As Mandela wrote in his autobiography, Long Walk To Freedom: "When I would tell her that I was serving the nation, she would reply that serving God was above serving the nation. A man and woman who hold such different views of their respective roles in life cannot remain close." Nevertheless, they were married for 13 years and had four children, one of whom died in infancy.
Apolitical though she was, Evelyn continued to pay the price of being a Mandela: the apartheid regime denied her a passport so she could not accompany her children to their private schools in neighbouring Swaziland. It was also Evelyn who had to find the money to pay their fees.
Born Evelyn Mase, in Engcobo, in the Transkei, she lost her father, a mineworker, while still a baby. Her mother died when Evelyn was 12, and she was sent to Soweto to join her brother, Sam, who was living with Mandela's great friend and mentor, Walter Sisulu (obituary, May 7 2003). Evelyn's mother and Walter's mother were sisters, and the families were very close. After high school in Soweto, Evelyn trained as a nurse.
It was in the early 1940s that she caught the eye of Mandela, then a frequent visitor to the Sisulu home. "She was a quiet, pretty girl, who did not seem overawed by the comings and goings," he wrote. They were married at the native commissioner's court in 1944, with Walter and Albertina Sisulu as witnesses. The wedding was a spartan affair because the couple could not afford a feast. Nor could they afford a home of their own, living first with her brother in Orlando East and then with her sister. Their first child, Thembi, was born a year later.
As Mandela became more involved with the ANC, he spent less and less time at home. Martin Meredith, in his biography of Mandela, claims he had affairs. In 1952, Evelyn spent several months in Durban training to become a midwife, while her husband's mother and sister took care of the children. Meredith reports that Evelyn returned to find Mandela's secretary installed in her home. Evelyn, a tough woman, threatened to throw boiling water over her and the woman left the house, but the affair continued.
Evelyn was never reconciled to living in Johannesburg. She wanted the family to return to the Transkei, where Mandela could take his place in the local Xhosa aristocracy. But it was her religious activities that caused the most trouble between them. The loss of her first daughter, Makaziwe, devastated Evelyn, and when another daughter, also named Makaziwe, was born in 1954, she took it as a sign from God and became a Jehovah's Witness.
The house became a battleground between religion and politics, with the children as cannon fodder. Evelyn took them to church and made them sell the Watchtower magazine around Soweto. Mandela lectured them on politics. Sisulu tried to intervene, but was told by a furious Mandela that he no longer loved his wife.
Evelyn gave him an ultimatum: choose between me and the ANC. It was no contest, and she and the children moved out. Shortly afterwards, Mandela met Winnie Madikizela, who became his second - and much more high-profile - wife in 1958.
Evelyn returned with the children to Cofimvaba, in the Eastern Cape, where she opened a grocery store. Tragedy struck again in 1969 when her oldest son, Thembi, was killed in a road accident. Mandela, by then serving life imprisonment on Robben Island, wrote of his pain at not being allowed to attend his son's funeral. He wrote, he said, to Evelyn, to do his best to comfort her.
She remained a Mandela until 1998, when she married a fellow Jehovah's Witness and retired Sowetan businessman, Simon Rakeepile. She is survived by her daughter Makaziwe, and her son Makgatho.
ยท Evelyn Rakeepile, born 1922; died April 30 2004