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  Sweden Branch on sale - Promotional Page

  by Viva la Vida in

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  the swedbank is promoting the sale of the former sweden branch:.

  http://beskrivningar.capitex.se/objdesc.aspx?guid=42vin3cu91omqg5m&typ=cmfastighet&skin=swedbankkf.

  it includes some nice pictures.... .

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  TheOldHippie

  "Printing branches were always very expensive for the WTS."

  Printing for Northern Europe is done in Finland, in Sweden it stopped years ago.
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  I'm Returing To Become A Jehovah's Witness Again

  by Space Madness in

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  2. friends

  a little background, i faded in 2007 and have been out ever since.

  i started studying at 18 and have no jw realitives.

  i'm returing because my life is heading in the wrong direction.

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  TheOldHippie

  "Jehovah's Witnesses are programmed to believe that psychology is a demonic profession,"

  How strange, then, that we have psychologists and psychiatrists in our congregations.
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  Are some JWs justified in staying in the org?

  by greendawn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  most of us left the organisation because we could no longer stand one or other aspect of it, perhaps its very dictatorial administration, the disappointment due to the false promises and vain hopes raised by its leadership, disagreement with the blood ban or pedophile and shunning policies, the feel one gets that this is a business and not a religious organisation manipulating its members to its own profit etc etc.

  these are of course valid reasons for rejecting this religion and refusing to identify with it but do the jws who stay in have a valid argument for rejecting leaving the org?

  they will say: "ok our religion, our society has its flaws but what human society doesn't?

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  TheOldHippie

  Interesting, by the way, how the Annual Meeting seems to have become the new Day of New Light, with all the GB members sharing in. Previously, there was a 20-lines notification in the WT that so-and-so had been re-elected or elected to fill in the vacancy after an earlier member had died, but now, the October date seems to be The Date to watch out for.

  The brochure now being studied at the meetings, it was issued in 2012, some months prior to the Annual Meeting with the new light on who is the Servant, and the two small chapters discussing who is the Servant and what does the GB do - are careful NOT to spell out who is the Servant and NOT to spell out that the GB is its representative (as was said up untill then), so in hindsight the new teaching could be deducted from what was NOT said in the brochure. But the change had been prepared for months. (The brochure is outdated already as for the schools, since the new school that is a merger of the single brothers and the married couples school, must have been decided that quickly that the old schools are still medntioned.)

  So the things NOT spelled out are the things to watch - and in that view, maybe something is brewing around the 1914 understanding.
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  JWS moving into the 2010s: GREATER FOCUS ON "PUBLIC' VENUE PREACHING

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  increasingly, jw.org and its print publications show lots of pictures of witnesses preaching one-to-one to "interested" passersby in public venues in contrast with fewer pictures depicting the door-to-door work.

  sure, d-t-d is still the organizatrion's mainstay activity - but clearly it pushes at every opportunity the need for the rank and file to "go" public.. this push could be a two-edge sword: there is obviously a hard core of witnesses whose dispositions draw them to this type of social outreach: they almost rush out to do this public-venue work, prefering it to d-t-d. but i'd hazard a guess that for the bulk of those in local congregations, the public-venue witnessing would be a total turn off.. to date, in new zealand, i have seen no evidence of jws doing this public venue witnessing - despite the huge push on jw.org and in the publications.

  kiwis just don't seem inclined to put themselves out in public places - or if they do, it is in a kind of very muted way (i.e., almost out of sight and unobtrusive).. this site has shown that in a few places, including mexico, at least a few of the more publicly zealous witnesses are doing the public work big time.. is the public venue preaching happening elsewhere, such as asia?

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  TheOldHippie

  "I saw one of their stands in Fareham yesterday. The sisters behind the stand were talking to one another and paying no attention to anyone around them. It was early and there were relatively few passersby but they made no effort to engage with anyone."

  They did what they are trained or told to do, my friend. Those behind the stand are informed NOT to approach those passing by or those looking at or taking some of the literature. They should only respond to questions etc, but not take the initiative themselves. That is the point of these stands - people should feel free to have a look and take whatever they want without being constantly asked "can I help you?" as in shops.
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  English Speaking Congregations in Mexico...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone read a letter or heard of english-speaking congos being shut down in mexico?

  an elder told me that this was happening, and that it was based on a "scriptural precedent.

  " sounds like downsizing with a made-up bs reason to me.

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  TheOldHippie

  Learning English as a launching point for getting contact with US people and thereafter getting a job in the US. Sounds only familiar with what some 3rd world people are trying in Europe - getting a foot inside the JW community and through that being assisted in getting work / sosial aid that is available / contact with society / grabbing what is to be grabbed.
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  “Can it be delayed until 1914?”

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  under the heading of "can it be delayed until 1914?

  " in zion's watch tower of july 15, 1894, russell advised his readers that the trouble they were experiencing was taking place exactly as he had anticipated 17 years earlier.. russell's readers were concerned that, given the troubles they were experiencing, matters could not hold out until 1914.. he comforted them with the information that 1914 was not the date for the beginning of the time of trouble, but for its end.. the full text and a scan of that page from the watch tower is available at:.

  http://www.jwstudies.com/watchtower_1894_07_15_page_226.pdf .

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  TheOldHippie

  Doug Doug Doug, I was trying to make a joke! :-)

  Please please, obviously I failed in maing you understand that it was meant as one.
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  15 People free from the Watchtower because of YouTube videos

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in just a few months.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbnazyb3j1a.

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  TheOldHippie

  15 out and 250,000 in.
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  “Can it be delayed until 1914?”

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  under the heading of "can it be delayed until 1914?

  " in zion's watch tower of july 15, 1894, russell advised his readers that the trouble they were experiencing was taking place exactly as he had anticipated 17 years earlier.. russell's readers were concerned that, given the troubles they were experiencing, matters could not hold out until 1914.. he comforted them with the information that 1914 was not the date for the beginning of the time of trouble, but for its end.. the full text and a scan of that page from the watch tower is available at:.

  http://www.jwstudies.com/watchtower_1894_07_15_page_226.pdf .

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  TheOldHippie

  Doug Mason, you are nothing but a liar! Have you not read and heard that world conditions were extremely peaceful and quiet in the years before 1914, that prominent politicians and historians have written that the world as we knew it, as we cherished it, disappeared in 1914, that the old, quiet, nice, stable, peaceful world abruptly was taken away from us all in 1914 and that we in stead got this terrible and unstable world that we have seen ever since? Just can't be, Doug, just can't be - it was PEACE back then, Doug, war came AFTER, you must not try to twist things around, Doug!
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  Rolf Furuli's accusation about VAT 4956 being tampered with?

  by possiblepineapple in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm sorry but can someone here explain what this is about.

  i saw someone on here called scholar on here saying that it somehow destroyed both coj and hermann hunger but how?

  how does rolf furuli know that it was tampered with?

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  TheOldHippie

  "Furuli is a teacher of languages in Sweden, I believe"

  Not exactly. He was teaching Hebrew at the Oslo University in Norway. He knows his Hebrew.
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  Unconfirmed 2014 Year Book Numbers - Peak Pubs, Baptized, Hrs, Reg Pio & Studies

  by OwnAccord in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bethelite sent this email out - can't really give out names.

  we wrote these figures as quickly as possible, but could not keep up 100%).

  you get to check these figures out when you get your 2014 yearbook.

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  TheOldHippie

  "Stories elsewhere suggest the witnesses who staff these publich ventures often sit or stand silently whilst the public ignores them."

  Well, that is what the JWs are told to do at the ventures. They are instructed NOT to approach people, but to remain in the back and only respnd when people are approaching them with questions etc. So it is meant to be exactly what you state - a "silent" or "quiet" witness.