Very stupid speculation, since one cannot just "put words into" the Bible if it is to be a translation. Otherwise, it would be a paraphrase, as are the Amplified Bible, Living Bible and Today's English Version, which are not translations at all. One cannot all of a sudden "put" words or expressions like GB, earthly paradise or whatever into the Bible text. Meaningless thread. And as previously stated, elsewhere in the world, Bibles are available, so it is just a "US thing". And if you consider the fact that all other translations of the NWT are made based on the English translation, it would imply that translations into tens upon tens of other languages would have to be made too, millions of Bibles printed - the cost would be HUGE. I would advice the US readers not to speculate as much as they do ................. The world is slightly larger than the US.
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100% pure unadulterated speculation - what changes would a "New New World Tranlsation" contain?
by sir82 inon this thread:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/257481/1/i-cant-find-any-bibles-seems-to-be-a-shortage.
some (well, me, mostly) are speculating that the wts is planning to distribute a "new new world translation" some time soon.. if that is true, what changes do you think they would include?.
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Multiple JWs involved in large-scale health insurance fraud in Germany
by processor inhttp://www.freiepresse.de/lokales/erzgebirge/aue/bundesweit-einmaliger-betrug-insgesamt-33-kassen-betroffen-artikel8463805.php.
http://www.freiepresse.de/lokales/erzgebirge/krankenkassen-betrug-ehemaliger-kreisrat-verstrickt-artikel8455900.php.
http://www.bild.de/regional/chemnitz/betrug/gauner-rosi-aus-dem-erzgebirge-31200064.bild.html.
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TheOldHippie
No - my error: Ex-Kreisrat is NOT former circuit overseer, but is a public office and has nothing to do with the JW in terms of position. Sorry.
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Multiple JWs involved in large-scale health insurance fraud in Germany
by processor inhttp://www.freiepresse.de/lokales/erzgebirge/aue/bundesweit-einmaliger-betrug-insgesamt-33-kassen-betroffen-artikel8463805.php.
http://www.freiepresse.de/lokales/erzgebirge/krankenkassen-betrug-ehemaliger-kreisrat-verstrickt-artikel8455900.php.
http://www.bild.de/regional/chemnitz/betrug/gauner-rosi-aus-dem-erzgebirge-31200064.bild.html.
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TheOldHippie
It says:
Am Dienstag verhandelte das Landgericht Chemnitz die Berufung einer 56-jährigen Frau aus Aue. Sie ist überzeugtes Mitglied der Zeugen Jehovas - und lernte den vermeintlichen Kopf der Bande auf einer Versammlung der Glaubensgemeinschaft kennen. Auch der Mann - der Bruder des Ex-Kreisrates - gehörte zur Gemeinschaft und versuchte offenbar, dort Personen für das Netzwerk zu rekrutieren.
This is better:
Tuesday, the Chemnitz district court heard the appeal of a 56-year old woman from Aue. She is a convinced member of Jehovah's Witnesses - and got to know the alledged head of the gang at a meeting of the denomination. Her husband - brother of the former circuit overseer - also belonged to the religious association and obvioulsy tried to recruit persons for the network there.
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The Divine Name King James Bible
by JakeM2012 ina friend sent me a link about the king james bible translating the "divine name".
maybe this is why there are no new nwt bibles available.
the web site states:.
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TheOldHippie
"A friend sent me a link about the King James Bible translating the "Divine Name". Maybe this is why there are no new NWT bibles available. "
No way. NWT is produced by WTB&TS, the DNKJV is a translation made by others and not distributed by the WTB&TS. It additionally has kept many of the errors of the KJV and is not very recommendable. Additionally, please remember that the US in not always = the World. If there is a shortage of NWT in the US, there is no shortage in other parts of the world, over here in Europe it is available as always.
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Former Longtime Elder - Reflections
by James Jackson inthe meetings are getting more boring to me.
some of the elders during their parts just talk and talk and talk about uninteresting things.
boring, boring.
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TheOldHippie
It makes me a bit sad from time to time, as the education given is not as good as it should have been, either because it is given by MSs with little or no education who has to ask or rely on educated people like me to get some historical or geographical or pronounciational facts straight, or because it is given by elderly Es with an illness history who have forgotten most of the names and mix up things and want to direct the attention of the audience to their own hospitalization history and survival strategy diminishing the illness history of others present that is bigger and more serious than their own, or because they are so afraid of saying something wrong that they keep asking and asking until they finally get the reply that has already been printed in the magazine and then and then only is it that they can move on to the next paragraph because then and only then are they happy they have given no wrong education.
Now how was THAT for ONE sentence only?
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Whats the most damning of the July 15 2013 changes?
by Crazyguy ina lot of the rank and file at the meetings seem to think some of the changes make more sense but what is the most damning of the changes that may help to wake to some up.
some thing the rank and file will not first see or understand as a big deal?.
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I think you are wrong. 1914 can NEVER be dropped. Sure, you can point to persecution starting in the mid-30s, war in the shape of WWII, starvation, illness, you can chew up some earthquakes - but so much is invested in 1914, I feel WT = JW = 1914 etc., 1914 is stated in the same breath as JW. If you changed THAT, then if not an exodus, then at least a massive indifference would begin. If 1914 was changed, then everything could be changed - life eternal on earth, never dying, resurrection on earth, and what would remain would only be hell, trinity and soul.
But each annual meeting from now on is something to be closely watched ......................
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More Crap in NK- Appropriately, Kim Jong-eun Visits a mushroom farm.
by fulltimestudent ineveryone must have heard the funny about being treated like a mushroom, (kept in the dark- and fed bull-sh*t), so appropriately, news piks have come to hand of king kim iii visiting a mushroom farm:.
this must be his arrival, with his usual detachment of military officers who are always present wherever he goes.
it is not clear whether they protect him or make sure he doesn't say something they don't want him to say.. .
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TheOldHippie
They seem happy - it must be Magic Mushrooms.
The web sites Kim Il Sung looking at things, Kim Jong Il looking at things and Kim Jong Un looking at things are great fun!
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My Study: "Did a 'Governing Body' govern Paul?"
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TheOldHippie
I thought Frederick Franz did away with that notion in his Gilead talk back in 74 or 75, stating how it was the Antioch congregation that sent out Paul and not the Jerusalem congregation.
The Jerusalem congregation, predominantly Jewish as it was, never was missionary geared and vanished from history after a few decades, as opposed to the Mediterranean and Asia Minor congregations. But then, neither today nor then was it extremely easy to do Christian missionary work among a Jewish community.
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Britain | Jehovah's Witnesses hushed up child sex scandal | July 16, 2013
by jwleaks inchurch officials hushed up a child sex scandal in their ranks and refused to co-operate with police.. .
jehovah witness ministerial servant gordon leighton admitted sexually abusing a child when he was confronted by his church elders, a court heard.. but during the official police investigation, the 53-year-old who made headlines in the 1990s when wife yvonne, 28, died after refusing a blood transfusion after childbirth on religious grounds denied any illegal wrongdoing.. and when detectives asked elders simon preyser, harry logan and david scott to make statements about the confession, all three refused and said what they had heard was confidential.. for three years, the elders refused to co-operate with the criminal investigation and kept up that stance when the case was brought before newcastle crown court after the victim made a complaint to police.. each was issued with a witness summons which they fought to overturn before being ordered to testify by judge penny moreland citing public interest.. their barrister richard daniels said the men had a duty to god not to breach confidence.. he added: privileged communication between members of the congregation and ministers is an absolute right and duty and there is no power in law to breach such a confidence.. judge moreland said: it is apparent that the three elders who were present when this conversation took place are in possession of relevant evidence as to a point which is of real significance in this case.. they claim the right of confidentiality, they claim that what they heard said by the defendant during the course of that meeting ought to be subject to privilege, as ministers of religion.. judge moreland refused to withdraw the summonses and said: public interest is clearly in favour of this evidence being given.. what was said by the defendant on that occasion is of great significance in the trial.. despite the judges ruling, the men still refused to make statements to police until just hours before they were called before the jury.. leighton, who has since been expelled from the church at lambton kingdom hall in washington, denied two charges of indecency with a child and seven of indecent assault.. he was yesterday found guilty of two charges of indecency with a child and six of indecent assault.
he was found not guilty of one indecent assault charge, on the direction of the judge.. he was remanded in custody until he is sentenced next month but warned he is facing a lengthy spell behind bars.. prosecutor katherine dunn told the court the victim, who is now an adult, broke her silence in 2009.. the court heard how at a special church meeting, leighton admitted sexual abuse and made excuses for his behaviour.. miss dunn said: the elders conducted their own investigation.
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TheOldHippie
That was ONE LOUSY WAY of dealing with the crime and a total misunderstanding of their obligations towards the victim and family, the congregation and neighbourhood / society as a whole. Not good. I had hoped that way of handling these matters was a US way of doing it, and that we here in Europe were more civilized than the US cowboys, but obviously some are still stuck in the hush-hush strategy.
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Maybe the most beautiful city in the world
by DJS ini have been to frejus, cannes, st. tropez and san rafael (maybe the most beautiful city in the world - no wait that would be cannes, or san tropez).
i traveled the coastal highway one day from s. of hyeres to monte carlo.
breathtaking.
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TheOldHippie
Tourist traps.