most of us know what theocratic warfare means but maybe very few people reading this forum might never heard of theocratic warfare.
can you give them some examples of theocratic warfare?
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If I remember correctly,Vin Toole the JW lawyer lying to the ARC under oath mind you when asked about theocratic warfare said he had heard of the phrase but did not know what it meant.
Also
Geoffrey Jackson Aust GB member lied to the ARC again under oath to tell the truth ,that it would be presumptuous to say that JW were the only religion God was using .
a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.
this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.
co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .
So true Pete Zahut I remember that time well,how many times can the GB build up end expectations only for the R&F to be sadly let down again,and again and again.
i’m reservations, pimo elder.
i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?
any ideas?.
Hi Rez and welcome to the forum,
I was a MS who was being groomed to be an Elder but I did not want to be an Elder ,I did not want that responsibility.
After reading most of the comments I can only with those who say in essence that trying to wake up those in the congregation is a futile thing to do.
I became a JW in 1960 in the next 10- 15 years i saw and experienced some questionable things both in the religion and the people who were a part of the religion. Did I leave the religion then ? NO.
In the study of the revelation book when they made claim to the seven trumpets sounding relating to the Conventions starting in Cedar point Ohio in 1922 ,I said to myself whoa that`s a big stretch of the imagination ? i couldn`t beleive it. Did I leave the religion then ? NO
When the book came out pointing to 6000 years of human history ending in 1975 way back in 1968-9 , i beleived it not knowing then that this was the second time they had made a similar prediction back in the 1800`s.
And when 1975 came and went 1976 came and went with no Jesus setting up his Kingdom over the earth as was suggested by the WT/JW religion they tried to blame it on the R&F as running ahead .
I knew then, that that, was Bullshit .Did I leave the religion then ? NO
I didn`t finally leave until 1992-3 when I realised it was so many little things that had grown up over a long period of time that finally broke the camels back.
So please don`t waste your life trying to wake people up , they wont do so until they themselves are ready to be woken up.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Take care
Lovely bike but where`s the chick gonna sit ?
i remember you weren’t supposed to picket or be involved in labour unrest.
is this still the jw policy?.
The last job I had required that I be a union member that I held for 28 years .
Whenever a vote was required at any of our meetings I always abstained much to the annoyance of my comrades.
The penny never seemed to drop when a vote was ever required at a KH though ?
Why does the name of the BSA motor Cycle remind you of the GB members of Jehovah`s Witnesses ?
Does Bull Shit Artists come to mind ?
Wasn`t Moses told to come forth,but he came fifth so Jehovah rebuked him ?
hi all.. i'm 42 years old.
i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.
how many jabs have you had?.
Both myself and my wife have had the first dose of AZ and neither of us had any side effects.
The next dose is on the 9th of Sept.
what was your kingdom hall like when it came to overweight witnesses?
i remember counseling some people on their drinking habits.
a few snickered that if we were going to counsel them because they have had way too many at a wedding reception, what about very overweight witnesses that have a lifestyle of overindulgence?
Jeeeeezz minimus you would have been DF from the last congregation I was in , we all liked to drink . The Elders and MS as I was loved having get togethers and going out to restuarants especially after a Sunday meeting.
We consumed a lot of alcohol but I never saw anyone visibly drunk .A few of us regularly drank at hotels also .
What I mean by that is a couple of drinks on any given day and the rest at home or at a friends place.
jesus: "so that is why you all get sick and die, because adam and eve grabbed an apple from the tree that god told them not to.".
a man from the crowd: "but why are we punished for something we didn't do, we don't even know that man and woman, that was thousands of years ago!".
jesus: "my father exercises perfect justice, believe me when i tell you when i say you got what was coming to you.
According to the GB of JW`s Jesus should never have gone with Satan up the Mountain for 40 days and nights ?
What were they doing up there all that time ? Satan is an apostate and Jesus should be brought before a judicial committee .
For that matter Jehovah God should be rebuked for allowing Satan to come and go as he pleased before his throne for thousands of years before kicking him out of Heaven.
And lastly their are millions if not billions of Galaxy`s and planets throughout the Universe where he could have sent Satan ,why send him down to earth to cause more harm ?
God`s got to answer some serious questions here.
