what is the true religion anyone have a clue?.
i would love to know, if anyone does have a clue; being a witness most of my life it gave me this feeling like i really was in the true religion and god really was with me cause i belonged to the "true religion.. i have noticed that witness's say the elders were appointed by holy spirit, how do they know did they see it, it just dawned on me that all of it has been based on the premise that i had to have faith in what they say rather then substantiated facts; all of what they say simply put is nothing more then words, contrived by men only, if you tell them this you get the treatment like your going to be destroyed which is paramount to going and burning in hell.
Hi anew
I don't know whether I agree that a bunch of atheists tore tinman's post apart...I think most people that responded were either Christians or other spiritual people. There were only one or two non-deists that commented.
I think a Free Christian group is a great idea, particularly one that emphasises love. Just as any group that emphasises love and doesn't try to "lord it over" others is commendable.
Peace, Love and Harmony to you
taoInit
what is the true religion anyone have a clue?.
i would love to know, if anyone does have a clue; being a witness most of my life it gave me this feeling like i really was in the true religion and god really was with me cause i belonged to the "true religion.. i have noticed that witness's say the elders were appointed by holy spirit, how do they know did they see it, it just dawned on me that all of it has been based on the premise that i had to have faith in what they say rather then substantiated facts; all of what they say simply put is nothing more then words, contrived by men only, if you tell them this you get the treatment like your going to be destroyed which is paramount to going and burning in hell.
"Do not go about worshipping deities and religious institutions as the source of the subtle truth. To do so is to place intermediaries between yourself and the divine, and to make of yourself a beggar who looks outside for a treasure that is hidden inside his own breast." - Hua Hu Ching
I think that sums it up quite well. Any reliance on outside revelation of "truth" is just as much prone to error (if not more so) than relying on the truth from your own heart.
taoInit
hey guys and girls.
i think it's time we started a uadsp :.
unseen apostate directorate of the south pacific.. who's going to head up the australian division?
Do not despair Beck, the time will come (and is at hand).
Patience is required at this delicate juncture. The cogs of the grand UAD machine turn, though they may turn slowly. You will be rewarded for your enthusiasm and patience.
taoInit
UADSP - AD (PURP)
hey guys and girls.
i think it's time we started a uadsp :.
unseen apostate directorate of the south pacific.. who's going to head up the australian division?
Due to further consideration, and on information from my superiors I can now make this statement:
"I can neither confirm nor deny my association with the organisation known as UAD or Unseen Apostate Directorate. Rumours about the proposed South Pacific arm of the directorate may have been exagerated, and as such are withdrawn. Any use by myself, or anyone else from the UADSP, of the UAD insignia or title has not been qualified and is also withdrawn. If you have been contacted by myself or one of the members of UADSP as to current arrangements of said UADSP, then please view anything mentioned in those communications as pending. I repeat, no action should be taken on any information received from the UADSP until further communication is received. That is all, thank you."
taoInit
UADSP - Australia Division (PURP - Permission & Usage Rights Pending)
hi simon, firstly i would like to say thank you for allowing us to post on here, its been a real eye opener for me to see that there are other people out in the world like me, that we are not the freaks after all, when i first got disfellowshipped i thought it was a terrible thing, that i was leaving the truth, now, after spending around a month on here i can see i never was in the truth, so thank you for letting me see that.. also can i say its refreshing to see someone admit when they make a mistake, like you did in the thread by sf, thank you for not being too proud to listen.
This is a great place...thanks Simon!
taoInit
Just thinkin' out loud...
hey guys and girls.
i think it's time we started a uadsp :.
unseen apostate directorate of the south pacific.. who's going to head up the australian division?
As far as I know you sign by putting UADSP below your name...hehe.
taoInit
UADSP-Australian Division
the world is full of half-enlightened masters.. overly clever,.
too "sensitive" to live in the real world,.
they surround themselves with selfish pleasures,.
It's true Intro...it doesn't really apply. After all the original text of this says Tao instead of Way, but that's what Tao means anyway...
T.A.O. the Ancient One, hmmm...don't know him.
BTW, that wink doesn't mean I'm him or anything...hehe...just a pun on not knowing the ancient one...oh, why do I always have to explain my jokes...hehe.
taoInit
Just thinkin' out loud...
hey guys and girls.
i think it's time we started a uadsp :.
unseen apostate directorate of the south pacific.. who's going to head up the australian division?
Hey guys and girls
I think it's time we started a UADSP :
Unseen Apostate Directorate of the South Pacific.
Who's going to head up the Australian Division? Oh that's right, we don't have a head, we're a MATRIX.
taoInit
UADSP-AD (Australian Division)
Just thinkin' out loud...
this is a quote by ozziepost in another thread:.
"a coupla years back the service department overseer at the bethel here complained to me that they couldn't get the australian elders to follow instructions, nor to do what they were told!".
i think it emphasises something that i've been wondering about.
Wow, Freddi that's a weird situation, in fact it has shocked me...
When I was saying that our elders were a bit more laid back, I didn't mean that there were different standards. It strikes me as odd that there can be such a wide gap in standards between close congregations.
Here in Australia if you're DFed you ARE DF'ED! It doesn't matter how near to home it is. (At least that's my experience; in fact, it seems to be worse the further the word has spread!)
So, things seem quite different, once again.
Some have already mentioned the proximity to Bethel explanation. I was myself going to comment on this, if I didn't get much response. I think that having the BIG HQ in your country has to make everyone slightly more "hard-line" and I think it's probably more this, than culture, that explains any harder attitude in the USA.
Just a comment on the multi-cultural-ness that Path brought up. I don't think it's the diversity of a Cong. that determines its attitude. Australia has some of the most diverse congregations IN THE WORLD. In fact Melbourne & Sydney are 2 of the most multicultural cities in the world, and that's reflected in the Congs in those cities. I definately agree with you that the Body of Elders sets the tone for the Congregation. In fact I think it's the body of elders that determines the entire feel of the Cong.
taoInit
Just thinkin' out loud...
the perfect gift for that someone special in your life!
already got american pie?
try wacky weenies!
Um...hello...pee pee the elephant?
Running out of ideas, maybe?
taoInit
