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  The Master spoke to me this morning. . .

  by Inkie in

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  this morning as i lay lying in bed i was listening to music on the radio station on my headset.

  when i do this, i do this so as not to disturb the wife while she is sleeping.

  only this morning, she had already risen and was downstairs getting ready to go to work and just about to walk out the door.

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  Well Tec, I'm sure you'll be able to come up with something, but I think you should stick with a comment you made earlier (highlighted in red):

  Perhaps the master (Christ and God) are capable of doing both (helping big and little things), but limited by the people engaging in those big/little things, who refuse to 'hear'.

  I don't know.

  I think one of the biggest things the WTS took from me is my belief in the power of prayer. Not the benefit of prayer - to oneself - but the power of receiving something asked for in prayer. (which, considering all the things I have received after asking, is pretty bad)

  Tammy

  And what the hell is Snowbird doing here, just when my blood pressure was getting down to normal.
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  Believers, is this really the way it works?

  by startingover in

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  http://haha.nu/files/uploads/2009/forgiveness/forgiveness.jpg.

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  How is the dead lady going to forgive him? What makes you think she wants to? If I was in her shoes I surely wouldn't. I find it interesting that believers can take statements made in the bible and extrapolate them to the extreme to make them fit what they want to believe. Why don't you do this with the rapist's words? How do you know he didn't repent?

  And it seems to be real easy to talk about forgiving someone when you are not the one that has been murdered. Of course statistics are impossible in this situation, but do you really think if it was possible to poll people who were murdered that any of them would forgive? I seriously doubt it.

  I personally think this is a simple cartoon that emphasizes the ridiculousness of "accepting christ". An eye for an eye makes much more sense.
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  Believers, is this really the way it works?

  by startingover in

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  http://haha.nu/files/uploads/2009/forgiveness/forgiveness.jpg.

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  startingover

  Try this. If you wait until it loads the image is at the bottom of the page, it's the 2 cartoon angels. Or click full size image at the top.

  http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://haha.nu/files/uploads/2009/forgiveness/Forgiveness.jpg&imgrefurl=http://haha.nu/2009/12/26/&usg=__PTEqZGE9jve-FYKFKdMsdwrvnnk=&h=386&w=500&sz=43&hl=en&start=144&itbs=1&tbnid=w6WNBFqNjKWZiM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dforgiveness%26start%3D126%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1
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  Believers, is this really the way it works?

  by startingover in

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  http://haha.nu/files/uploads/2009/forgiveness/forgiveness.jpg.

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  http://haha.nu/files/uploads/2009/forgiveness/Forgiveness.jpg
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  Do you REALLY believe Ezekiel laid seige to a brick 390 days?

  by Terry in

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  2. bible

  in ezekiel the 4th chapter one of the most ludicrous passages in the bible tells us god commanded his prophet ezekiel to lie on his left side in a mock seige against a.....brick!

  for how long?

  390 days!.

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  Another great post Terry! Great story Donny, you really hit the nail on the head, they will find a way to believe it no matter how bizarre. Enter Tec...
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  God's Name Discussion

  by garyneal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several weeks ago, i was attending a meeting with my wife and i brought my king james translation of the bible with me.

  one of the brothers came up to me after the meeting and asked me what translation did i have and i showed it to him.

  he asked if i knew that god's name appeared in that translation and i said, "yes, psalms 83:18 i do believe.

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  Peacedog, that's an excellent point about removing the vowels from their own personal name.
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  Atheists - Do you ever talk to God?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i scream out sometimes.

  am i angry at a 'being' that i don't think exists?

  or the embedded concept?.

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  After coming to the conclusion such a being does not exist, to be honest I never felt the need to talk to him. I have however had to deal with the reality of death that has confronted me. After losing my parents 4 years ago, tears still come easily and sometimes I wonder if living in the fantasy world I used to live in would have made my situation different. I have no way of knowing at this point. But still, I have never felt the need to speak to god.
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  IF THE BIBLE is so darned great---why don't people JUST read IT?

  by Terry in

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  2. bible

  working in a bookstore i notice the thousands and thousands of books "explaining" what the bible really "means.".

  those are what people read.. when people say they read the bible they are really saying they "try".

  but, it is like reading chinese.. so, what they end up doing is reading opinions.. opinions, conjectures, hypothesis, fantasy, imaginative ruminations, fanciful concoctions......other people's ideas presented as documentary fact.. .

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  Oracle, I really relate to your comments.

  It struck me reading this thread that of all the books I have read in my life I can't think of any I felt the need to keep reading over and over again. I read C of C and it changed my life more than anything I have ever read, but I never felt the need to read it over and over again. I grew up with the idea that reading the bible every day was necessary if you wanted to live forever. Seems like lots of people believe variations of that idea besides JW's. Makes no sense to me now.
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  Letter to Phoenix Suns owner about AZ immigration laws

  by startingover in

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  don't know if this is authentic or not, but it really doesn't matter.

  it's still a great analogy.

  the owner of the phoenix suns basketball team, robert sarver, opposes az's new immigration laws.

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  startingover

  Leavingwt,

  Thanks for the post. How a nation is lost indeed.
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  Letter to Phoenix Suns owner about AZ immigration laws

  by startingover in

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  don't know if this is authentic or not, but it really doesn't matter.

  it's still a great analogy.

  the owner of the phoenix suns basketball team, robert sarver, opposes az's new immigration laws.

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  Don't know if this is authentic or not, but it really doesn't matter. It's still a great analogy

  The owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team, Robert Sarver, opposes AZ's new immigration laws. Arizona 's Governor, Jan Brewer, released the following statement in response to Sarver's criticism of the new law:
  
  "What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into games without paying? What if they had a good idea who the gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn't be ejected. Furthermore, what if Suns' ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to provide free medical care and shelter?" - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer