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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  If this is the way Lloyd fights a case he is going to pursue for years and years or until his last breath I'd hate to see the way he took on a case that didn't really mean that much to him!!! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  So many of his rants/videos talk about his large 'legal expenses'.

  How much has he actually spent on all this so far I wonder!🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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  2023-10-11-Confidential Publications!

  by Atlantis in

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  2023-10-11-confidential publications.

  https://imgbox.com/ks8qzp5h .

  atlantis!.

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  Ron.W.

  Many thanks

  Would like to see that watchtower when available please!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Methinks our fantastic patreoff is really biting his humongous ass and seriously bugging him - why else would he do this!!👍
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  He opened a free tier! Ugh

  What does the 'free tier' actually give you??
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  Real reasons behind this change?

  by Gorb in

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  just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

  a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

  maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

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  I was born in 67, I remember being told that the end would come before I'd goto or leave high school.

  
  

  Yes I was born in the same year and had the same thing drummed into me.
  
  
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  Did Anyone Have Fun With Their Field Service Reports?

  by NotFormer in

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  now that there is new light on reporting hours in field service, it's raised a few questions for me, who was never in the jws.

  did any of you ever have fun with the field service report slips, by finding creative ways of reporting time without raising suspicions in those who oversaw the collection of those slips?.

  also, can anyone upload an image of what the slips looked like, or point me to a post that gives uploaded examples of the sort of paperwork that was familiar to jws in good standing?.

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  Turn the field service reports at the beginning of the month with the numbers already filled in.

  👍🤣

  Love it!
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  List of main points from 2023 AGM

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.

  the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.

  they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.

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  Whatever they do, you won't like it.

  Yep, nothing personal, but I don't like anything they say or do - self aggrandising bastards all of 'em..
  
  
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  Real reasons behind this change?

  by Gorb in

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  2. friends

  just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

  a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

  maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

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  I remember countless times the GB have said something like they are blaming the Jdubs for believing something that the GB had previously told them to believe and now putting the blame on them for believing it.

  Yes, that's one of the things I detest about them.

  I think Ray Franz wanted an acknowledgement in print that they were mistaken about 1975 and what came out made it look like it was the rank and files fault!!

  Here are some previous 'apologies'....

  1976 "It may be that some who have been serving God have planned their lives according to a mistaken view of just what was to happen on a certain date or in a certain year. They may have, for this reason, put off or neglected things that they otherwise would have cared for. But they have missed the point of the Bibles warnings concerning the end of this system of things, thinking that Bible chronology reveals the specific date." (Watchtower, July 15, 1976, p. 440)

  1979 Because of this hope, the "faithful and discreet slave" has alerted all of God's people to the sign of the times indicating the nearness of God's Kingdom rule. In this regard, however, it must be observed that this "faithful and discreet slave" was never inspired, never perfect. Those writings by certain members of the "slave" class that came to form the Christian part of God's Word were inspired and infallible, but that is not true of other writings since. Things published were not perfect in the days of Charles Taze Russell, first president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society; nor were they perfect in the days of J.F. Rutherford, the succeeding president. The increasing light on God's Word as well as the facts of history have repeatedly required that adjustments of one kind or another be made down to the very present time. But let us never forget that the motives of this "slave" were always pure, unselfish; at all times it has been well-meaning. (The Watchtower; March 1, 1979; p. 24)

  1979 Partly because of eagerness to be alive when Jesus Christ reveals himself in glory, there have been believers throughout the centuries who began looking for a particular period or a year for the windup of the ungodly system of things. this has happened right down to these "last days." Since certain expectations were not realised, many stumbled and returned to the ways of the world. In fulfilment of Peter's words, even today we hear the voice of ridiculers. (2 Peter 3:3,4) (Choosing The Best Way Of Life; 1979; p. 169)

  1980 "With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of mans existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, There were other statements published that implied that such realisation of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a build-up of the expectation already initiated....In saying anyone, the Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah's Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the build-up of hopes centred on that date. (Watchtower, March 15, 1980, p. 17-18)

  
  
  
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  List of main points from 2023 AGM

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.

  the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.

  they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.

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  Jeff Winder said the GB are not inspired and not infallible. He said when they get things wrong there is no need to apologise.

  Priceless.

  
  

  I think I'll shag my way around the whole kingdom hall. At the judicial when they ask if I'm repentant I'll say: "As Jeff Winder said brothers, there is no need to apologise..."