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English translation of the WT Dutch Branc Office response to the UN issue.

by avengers in

dear brother van xxxxxx .

even though we don?t exactly know if you still identify yourself as a witness of jehovah, we decided to still use the same opening words as in our letter to you from november the fifth 2001. we received your letter from last 23 may in good order.

in here you ask an amount of questions in addition to your previous letter from 5 november 2001 and our reactions on it in our letter from 8 november 2001. .

somebody

Avengers. you are not crazy!

"The library was during many years before 1991 used, but in that year it became necessary to register as an NGO in order to continue access.

The above was THE LIE they used to cover their own a$$es in the 2001 letter .And the "since" 1991 is their word games in order to further cover their own a$$es in their recent kniving and slyly worded letter. ("since" being the key word )

CON artist!

I enjoyed your last response to them! They gave a great example describing THEMSELVES!

peace,

somebody

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English translation of the WT Dutch Branc Office response to the UN issue.

by avengers in

dear brother van xxxxxx .

even though we don?t exactly know if you still identify yourself as a witness of jehovah, we decided to still use the same opening words as in our letter to you from november the fifth 2001. we received your letter from last 23 may in good order.

in here you ask an amount of questions in addition to your previous letter from 5 november 2001 and our reactions on it in our letter from 8 november 2001. .

somebody

Thank you avengers!

About the second point, where according to you we are guilty of apostacy and hypocrisy,we would like to note the following: As Witnesses we are sent into the field by Jesus and he instructed us to preach ?the Kingdom of God?. (Luk. 10:9)

Along with all the other BS and doublespeak in the letter, the society used Luke 10:9 and the WTS INC claim that that is the OLD good news that first century Christains preached. They have already admitted that the "good news" JWs preach goes BEYOND what Christ's followers taught in the first century as in Luke 10:9. The WBTS have adnmitted that they themsleves made their very own ADDITION to the gospel in 1967. ( that is the year they adnmitted that they added something to the gospel to be preached ) And they STILL preach a good news that goes beyond what the first century christains preached.

They lie, as usual. honesty has NEVER been a policy of the WT cult"s human leaders adhere to.

They also never will admit that the WBTS have been the TOP NGO RECIPIENTS of foreign funds in the past. They lied AGAIN when they said that being a registered NGO under the UN brought them no speacial status ( or something to those words). They DID BENEFIT FINACIALLY. Per usual, $$$$$$$ is their one and only concern. Greedy, along with other words I could add, is only ONE word for the multi-million doallar corporation called the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Incorporated. They changed their name to "Jehovah's Witnesses" for their mailing address for a reason. Their own followers will take the brunt of every evil thing they do.

The criteria for NGO registered under the UN NEVER CHANGED the years that they were secretly registered. They LIE, which is typical of them. They got dissassociated really quick when what they were doing was exposed. They disassocaited FOR NO OTHER REASON than that. The hypocrites got caught.

peace,

gwen/somebody

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American Idol final: Diana or Fantasia

by Mulan in

i thought both girls sang amazingly last night.

both had one song that wasn't so great, so the contest was a draw for me.

since simon so obviously favors fantasia i voted 3 times for diana.

somebody

Hi Mulan,

I did watch it, as I have been the whole season. I agree with you that both girls have talent and both will get contracts. I also agree that Fantasia should win the competition though. I've been saying that since it was down to about 8 left. (Although zev didn't want to hear that. ) I think her voice is kind of annoying listening to her talk, but she defintely has the perfect voice for singing.

Both of them have given me the goosebumps just listening to them sing. Both are wonderful singers with great vocal talent. I'll be happy for either one who wins.

peace,

somebody/gwen

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.....On the Road Again!.....

by Joyzabel in

ok, it's only an hour to go before we move out for the summer!

we are looking forward to seeing several this summer along our journeys.

we will try to post where we are at and if anyone would like to get together for lunch or just to chat.. this weekend steve, salem & i will be in dallas.

somebody

(((((((((((((Joy, Steve,Salem)))))))))

Have wonderful travels! We'll miis ya's here! Wish you were coming to the east coast!

Love,

gwen and harold /somebody and zev

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"This Good News of the Kingdom" is NOT Jesus' Gospel

by Farkel in

the wts and dubs like to brag that, unlike all other religions, they are the only people preaching the truth about "this good news of the kingdom" on earth.

they claim that their most important purpose in life and as dubs is to preach that good news.. .

they use their favorite verses in matthew 24:14 and revelation 21:3,4 to describe what that "good news of the kingdom" means.

somebody

Farkel :

What does the Bible have to say about that?

"However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declard to you as good news, let him be accursed. As we have said above, I also now say again, Whoever it is that is declaring to you as good news something beyond what you accepted, let him be accursed. " - Galations 1:8,9
The writer of Galations (presumably Paul) considered this matter so important that he stated it TWICE. Yet the WTS brags that they are doing that very thing in the face of its clear condemnation in scripture.
They cannot even get their "most important message" right without clearly scoffing at what is written in the Bible.

I agree. And the WTS claim that it was JESUS who said that a good news that goes beyond what his followers preached in the first century was to be preach in "our day". Benefit From Theocractic ministry School Education (2002) p. 279 The Message We Must Proclaim

?THIS GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM? WHEN providing details regarding the sign of his presence and the conclusion of the system of things, Jesus foretold: ?This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.??Matt. 24:14. Exactly what is this message that is to be given such wide publicity? It is about the Kingdom for which Jesus taught us to pray to God, saying: ?Let your kingdom come.? (Matt. 6:10) Revelation 11:15 describes it as ?the kingdom of our Lord [Jehovah] and of his Christ? because the ruling authority originates with Jehovah and is conferred upon Christ as King. Note, however, that the message that Jesus said would be proclaimed in our day goes beyond what his followers preached in the first century. They told people: ?The kingdom of God has come near to you.? (Luke 10:9) Jesus, the one anointed to be King, was then in their midst. But as recorded at Matthew 24:14, Jesus foretold the worldwide announcement of another development in the fulfillment of God?s purpose. ------------------------------------ As you said, they love to use Matthew 24:14. WHERE does it say in Matthew 24:14 that there is to be a good news that goes BEYOND what his followers preached? Where does it say that there would be a different message to be preached "in our day" ? Where does JESUS say such a thing that in Matthew 24:14? I don't see it. Does anyone? It makes me wonder if JWs read that scripture and say, " See? I told you Jesus said that in our day, we are to preach as good news something that goes beyond what his followers preached in the first century"! The scriptures you provided are worth repeating..

(Galatians 1:8-9) . . .. 8

However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said above, I also now say again, Whoever it is that is declaring to YOU as good news something beyond what YOU accepted, let him be accursed. peace, somebody/gwen

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Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures

by Corvin in

i found this on the official jw site:

conscience

jehovah's witnesses avoid making rules and regulations beyond those provided in the scriptures, and they do not follow traditions that contradict bible teachings.

somebody

The 2 door cars and the pepperoni things are pretty scary. Someone mentioned the name tags at assemblies too. (I think it was on Walter's list). And it brought to my mind that I remembered reading that one of the reasons for the name bagdes was for advertisement purposes. I found where I read it:

*** km 5/82 p. 6 1982 ?Kingdom Truth? District Conventions *** "LAPEL CARDS: These cards are provided as a means of advertising the convention as well as to facilitate identifying our brothers and sisters in attendance." And that led me to remembering that JWs do not want to mixing in the company of many worldly people ( you know, those people who they spend hours going from house-to-house with the motive of directing them to their own organization?)..which leads to the question of..... Advertising the convention to WHO? The MANY WORDLY PEOPLE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE MIXING IN COMPANY WITH DURING THE DAY? *** km 5/99 p. 5 1999 ?God?s Prophetic Word? District Conventions *** "Many have said that the opportunity to relax during the noon break and spend additional time with their brothers and sisters has been enjoyable. This requires purchasing foodstuffs and beverages ahead of time and packing them in a small container or cooler that can fit under the seat. We request that all in attendance follow this instruction. Lately, building managers and food vendors in the facilities where our conventions are held have observed some brothers leaving the auditorium to purchase food from street vendors and fast-food establishments nearby. Some of the food vendors in the convention facilities being used are now demanding that they be allowed to open their food stands and serve the delegates attending our conventions. If this were permitted, many worldly people would be mixing in company with us during the day. " So just who does the WTS INC. wish their followers to advertise for them too?

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Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures

by Corvin in

i found this on the official jw site:

conscience

jehovah's witnesses avoid making rules and regulations beyond those provided in the scriptures, and they do not follow traditions that contradict bible teachings.

somebody

iiz2cool : no pepperoni on your pizza

LOL.... Why would I not be surprized if that were true?

And I'd like to add to your list....

no buying food from food vendors at the convention sites.

peace,

somebody

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Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures

by Corvin in

i found this on the official jw site:

conscience

jehovah's witnesses avoid making rules and regulations beyond those provided in the scriptures, and they do not follow traditions that contradict bible teachings.

somebody

Their whole disfellowshipping process AND their reistatement process AND their 170-something questions before a person can be baptised AND their whole "apply and either be rejected or approved" to go and preach for as many hours as a a person wishes to AND their updated version of the "good news" to be preached that the WTS admits goes BEYOND what Christ's first century followers preached AND their teaching that their "great crowd" of followers "bow down to", spiritually , to the group of fellow humans who make up the WTS INC's faithful and discreet slave AND also teaching that their "great crowd" render sacred service accaptable to God ONLY in assocation with that group of humans that make up the WTS INC's faithful and discreet slave. ....and the list goes on and on and on.

I'm glad you asked.

peace,

somebody/gwen

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Can anyone identify these...?

by somebody in

flowers i have growing in my front yard?

are they wild?

they pop up every spring, even though they are ignored and aren't given any care.?

somebody

Thank you ALL !!! Now that I know what they are called, I can read up on them and see if I can plant more and when to plant them.

Nowisee,

I've never pressed flowers before. I'm not sure what that even is!

zev and I are both doing very good. I hope all is well with you too!

peace,

gwen/somebody

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Can anyone identify these...?

by somebody in

flowers i have growing in my front yard?

are they wild?

they pop up every spring, even though they are ignored and aren't given any care.?

somebody

flowers I have growing in my front yard? Are they wild? They pop up every spring, even though they are ignored and aren't given any care.? I live in RI, USA if that may help. I've searched on the net and haven't found what they are.