Yep, sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one. A man who is trying to salvage his reputation and seems to be having trouble getting his story straight is probably lying. His attempts to deal with every discrepancy just ends up leading to more discrepancies. You would think that just being up front and honest from the start would be the best option, but something tells me that the truth of his situation is so bad that lying about it is the only chance he has of getting through this with even a shred of his 'career' still intact.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Did Satan keep on Attracting Demons to his side?
by Lost in the fog inif you still believe in god and the devil.. .
where did the demons come from?.
the wt says that they are the angels who came to earth and had relations with women on earth, who on return to heaven were thrown into tartarus.
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TonusOH
I don't think the Bible ever specified how many angels turned away from God and joined Satan, nor does it tell how this process worked. Genesis 6 appears to refer to angels having sex with human women, and Revelation 12 mentions that the dragon (Satan) swept a third of the 'stars of heaven' down to Earth. If this is a reference to angels, it would imply that a lot of them joined the Devil. It does state that Satan and "his angels" were subsequently cast down to Earth.
I don't recall if there is a specific reference to what happened to the angels from Genesis 6. But unless a very large number of them took human form in order to impregnate human women, it is reasonable to assume that other angels were led away from God by the Devil over time.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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TonusOH
Yooters: Tell Lloyd to quit reading YT comments.
He won't stop, he cannot help himself. He wants the last word, at any cost.
Even YouTube --which tries its hardest to coddle content creators and protect them from harassment of even the mildest sort-- will probably realize that he's impossible to satisfy and ignore him.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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WingCommander: Lloyd was there, INVISIBLY. He was up in the woods, with his pants down around his ankles, rubbing one out against a tree as he observed the ladies below in shorts.
It wouldn't be the first time he was found rubbing one out against a tree.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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TonusOH
I think it means that they wouldn't cooperate with him, and with some of his requests. Lloyd being Lloyd, he probably got into a few arguments with them and, unable to just drop it and move on, decided to take a shot at them for not showing him the deference he expects.
I would love for him to decide to take on the environmental lobby over something so petty. The blowback would be cataclysmic.
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Would you still be angry with Lloyd Evans ?
by BettyHumpter inif instead of thailand, he had gone to a place where its legal and (supposedly) has some sort of oversight to prevent exploitation?
like nevada in the u.s or amsterdam in europe?
would the being unfaithful part still be a deal breaker as far as supporting his channel?
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TonusOH
I find his situation fascinating and funny, mostly because he is an unpleasant person whose actions have led to his own humiliation, and his efforts to 'fix' things only ever make it worse. I think that for me, the one thing that would make me feel some sympathy for him would have been if he hadn't been such an obnoxious and mean person for so many years. We will root for people who fall, even when it is their own fault, if we feel that they are generally good or nice people. But we will enjoy the downfall of people who are arrogant and mean to others, especially when it is their own fault.
For Evans, the issue is that he appears to depend primarily on the support of people who subscribe to his Patreon and who donate funds when he requests it. They are the ones who are likely very offended by the fact that he cheated. Some may be unwilling to support him for the act of buying sex, but I don't think that it would have sunk his efforts at fundraising by itself. I think that the issue for many of them is that this was an ongoing behavior from a married man with two children. Aside from the moral concern, there is also the worry that he might give his wife an STD. There would also be the concern that, if caught, he might end up in prison. Not so easy to make videos moralizing against a cult when you're locked up for a month or more.
But for me, he's mostly just entertainment. His approach to this problem has been to fight back and go after anyone and everyone, because it enrages him to think that they're enjoying a bit of schadenfreude over his self-inflicted wounds. So he keeps stepping up to the public stage to try and salvage the situation, only to make things worse for himself. If I didn't know better, I'd say he was working on a sitcom.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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TonusOH
LOL, he alienated them before he even made a single video.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - Where is Your Money Going?
by Sea Breeze inafter discouraging and in many instances prohibiting jw's from getting an education, like in computer graphics, film-making and design, the wt is employing these kinds of professionals and throwing vast sums of money at their new film-making adventures doubtless from all the properties they confiscated, sold that the local members paid for.
kim and mikey talk about this primarily starting at 13:15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqafxmsjirk&ab_channel=kimmikey .
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TonusOH
Nothing new to see here.
But it's a good point. Does anyone believe that the WTS would encourage JWs to get into filmmaking or related fields, like 3D design and animation? How often did you ever hear of a JW being advised to get an education as a lawyer? The rank-and-file are strongly encouraged to eschew a secondary education in favor of a low-demand job so that they have plenty of time to recruit more people into the cult. Those who ignored this advice are in high demand in helping to provide low-cost labor to the organization.
It's not an encouraging message: keep your life as plain and simple as you can, give the organization as much of your precious spare cash as you can manage, and if you happened to get an education in a lucrative field, give the WTS your time, labor, and expertise for pennies on the dollar until such time as they no longer have a use for you.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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notsurewheretogo: I'm confused as to how Kim's credentials as a lawyer or not has any relevance
I asked this same question when he first demanded that Kim provide this information. I think he is doing it for two reasons: one, he wants to dig into her background and see if he can find anything he can use against her. Two, if she refuses to provide it, he can make that the focus of his replies to her and direct the conversation away from his failings and his failures (which is exactly what he has been trying to do).
As for his foray into climate activism, I agree that it looks like he wants to branch out, now that he has ruined his reputation and limited the already small amount of attention and support he could ever get from JWs and exJWs. The problem for him is that his baggage is not related to the JW organization. He cheated on his wife with prostitutes. He is a terrible person, even to people who are trying to work with him or who want to support him. He is a major drama queen who lives his life online and then gripes that people are minding his business. In other words, he will undermine and sabotage himself wherever he goes, and if he is aiming for a larger and more visible stage, his next self-inflicted wound will probably end his aspirations as a filmmaker.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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TonusOH
You can tell how it's going by the way he is pushing the whole "I don't need to provide evidence, YOU need to provide evidence" narrative. A reminder: he filed the suit. He is legally required to provide evidence, including to the people he is accusing of a crime or of defamation. If he cannot, then he doesn't have a case.
I think it's pretty clear that he wants to drag it out because he must finally have realized that he set himself up for a very public (and very embarrassing) failure. I don't think he can face the ridicule to come if the criminal suit goes nowhere.