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  Are You Concerned About Inflation?

  by Simon in

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  i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.

  that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?

  they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.

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  That sounds like anytime a politician pats himself on the back for lowering the deficit. "We weren't quite as reckless and irresponsible as we were the last time. We call that progress!"

  Okay, it's actually worse. You can't hide the price of goods and services the way you can excess government spending, although we are on the way to making those two problems converge. People hear the President and his supporters make claims like this, but their energy bills are still high. They're paying a lot for gasoline. They're paying a lot for food. They're paying less for police, though. I guess that's where the savings are being realized.
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  Movies that used the term Jehovah Watchtower or Witnesses!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  indiana jones 3...we had elders going to this movie.

  life of brian stoning people who say jehovah...so funny!

  even "supergirl" where someone knocks on the door of the secret hideout and the villain says "if that's those damn jehovahs witnesses again!

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  LOL Smiddy. For the very short time that he took part in field service, my dad was the opposite. He couldn't get away from either a closed or open door fast enough.
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  JW "new light" immediately reversed/contradicted

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  september 2022 study watchtower - par.

  14 p. 18 - "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

  the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death.

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  They don't even have to rebel. God is the giver of life, and life is His to take back if He so chooses. This is how we were always taught. God did not need a reason. Since He is the personification of mercy, the fact that we are alive at all is due to his merciful nature. Most (if not all) Christians will admit that we are not deserving of life, that it is a gift granted us by God.

  And that God is also the personification of justice. Which means He would be justified in taking back that which was given undeservedly. Imagine living for an eternity with that particular sword of Damocles hanging over your head.
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman: And they corrected it.

  If they've been wrong once, how can you be sure they are not wrong now? Or won't be wrong again in the future? Do you feel that God is responsible for their mistakes, or does he allow them to stumble about in the dark sometimes?
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman: That doesn’t disqualify them as God’s org or falsify their correct understanding of the Bible.

  But if the dates were derived via 'Bible chronology' and/or a study of scripture, doesn't that mean their understanding of the Bible is not correct?
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman: JW have erred in interpreting the year of the great tribulation but not in interpreting prophecy or scriptures relating to the time of the end

  But they did get those dates wrong. Wasn't it at the 1922 convention that Rutherford was still pushing the relevance of dates like 1799, 1844, and 1874? Didn't Russell believe that 1914 would be the end of mankind's rule, and that Christ had taken his heavenly throne in 1874?

  If Russell originally stated that 1914 was the actual end of the old world, then the present claim that he always identified it as the year of Christ's heavenly coronation is false. It is a lie that is adhered to in order to support a narrative history that is itself a lie. I don't see how that can be reconciled.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Diogenesister: do you think he would attempt to have it removed if there were no commentary around it?

  I think he will take every action he can against anything that is uploaded. Most of what he tries will be useless aside from whatever value it has as bullying tactics. A copyright claim might work, though remember that copyright is meant to protect a work from being monetized by others or preventing the copyright owner from monetizing the work. So it's possible that he would not have a sufficient claim to get it taken down. But many websites will do so anyway, out of an overabundance of caution.

  And besides, the full video is a bit of a slog. Any of the commentary videos already out there have the salient points covered, and links to them would be more useful for information purposes. But I'd ask first, since linking them could make them targets of renewed harassment by Evans's more rabid followers.
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  Movies that used the term Jehovah Watchtower or Witnesses!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  indiana jones 3...we had elders going to this movie.

  life of brian stoning people who say jehovah...so funny!

  even "supergirl" where someone knocks on the door of the secret hideout and the villain says "if that's those damn jehovahs witnesses again!

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  In Coming to America, John Amos's character gets rid of one of his daughter's suitors who knocked at their front door and --not wanting her to know who it was-- claims it was JWs.

  I believe that in the original version of Frankenstein, one of the people in the first scene makes a reference to Jehovah, though obviously not to the JWs, who would have only adopted the name around that time.
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Vanderhoven7: unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.

  You have to admit... that's quite unique.
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  Investment departments in Bethel

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was a bethelite in london for many years then got reassigned to the field and then went on brd from the start of chelmsford right upto covid.. during my years at the branch i was sometimes asked to be on a team who went to homes donated to the branch when some older one died.. this happenes an awful lot, everything is left to the branch in the will.

  the unbelieving family is furious they didn’t get left anything and sometimes they tried to get their elderly relatives possessions and there was a legal battle .

  but in the end a team of us would go and empty the property and another team would clean it up and put it on the market to sell it for the worldwide work.. all the possessions were sorted into trash or possibly valuable .

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  Mikejw: If you look at pictures of them when they were younger elders they never wore them, but once you get to a certain level a bit like the degrees of masons you get certain rings.

  If you hold the rings next to a fire, does an ancient inscription appear on them?