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  Why are so many Jehovah’s Witnesses Angry and Rude?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  why do you think many jws are hostile and rude?

  or is that just my imagination?.

  mark jones writes: the vast majority of jehovah’s witnesses are nice people.

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  Vanderhoven7: They’re not even supposed to be on here as their leaders forbid it.

  I think this is an important part of it. They are so upset at the thought that others are criticizing the organization, that they will violate the command to avoid any interaction with apostates and "enemies." This means that they probably took steps to be as anonymous as possible, and anonymity gives people more freedom to push limits when interacting with others. They feel free to be as nasty as they want, since they are not going to answer for it in their real lives and after all, they are attacking people who are as bad as the Devil and condemned by God to eternal death.

  The notion that they are risking their own eternal life hopes for the thrill of arguing on the internet is lost on them, for reasons I cannot fathom. The GB makes it quite clear that they are taking their lives in their hands by reading a forum like this, much less interacting with apostates.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I don't see him as working with/for the WTS because there doesn't seem to be an upside for them. I do not believe that anyone as arrogant as the GB members would be okay with many of the videos he posted. Evans constantly made fun of and belittled the GB, and I can't imagine that they'd be okay with that. If Evans has a big ego, it must seem microscopic next to the ego of men who are treated as royalty by people who believe that they are God's "spirit-directed" mouthpiece.

  As for the lawsuit, the fact that he lumped everyone together implies that they conspired to commit a specific crime, not that they each committed a separate crime. So he either knows that the suit was just for show, or he's too dumb to realize that his lawyer took the quick and easy path, which will lead to the case likely getting tossed. He might have a problem if he tries to follow up with a civil action. It would be hilarious for a defendant to insist that he be deposed, just so we end up with video of some lawyer utterly tearing his case apart and ripping his reputation into tiny pieces.
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  Do you believe in ghosts?

  by Country Girl in

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  i am posting this because i know there are many people that have had experiences that cannot be explained by natural means.

  i am a ghost hunter, as a hobby.

  my hobby is to disprove ghosts.

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  While I keep an open mind about any metaphysical phenomena, I do not believe that ghosts or demons exist. I'm willing to be proven wrong, but the evidence is almost entirely anecdotal or impossible to corroborate. This is in spite of centuries (millennia, really) of reports of sightings and other experiences.

  However, I did believe in them for a long enough time that I am still a bit spooked of the dark, even though I'm no longer terrified of it. But if I watch a good horror film, I'll probably keep the covers good and tight for the rest of the night.
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  Are you driven by vengeance or Payback?

  by Fisherman in

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  “there is nothing more ironic and curious than a trapper being caught in his own trap or a plot backfiring.

  ironic justice is the best revenge.” the inventor of the brazen bull, one if the most heinous torture devices in history was tricked to go inside of it and died of the torture he created.. probably one of the greatest movies ever made features revenge as its theme: once upon a time in the west.

  sadly in this movie the main character doesn’t rely on ironic justice happening by god or chance.

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  Fisherman: The inventor of the brazen bull, one if the most heinous torture devices in history was tricked to go inside of it and died of the torture he created.

  That's because he was gullible enough to fall for the old 'can you demonstrate how it works' ploy.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Yep, sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one. A man who is trying to salvage his reputation and seems to be having trouble getting his story straight is probably lying. His attempts to deal with every discrepancy just ends up leading to more discrepancies. You would think that just being up front and honest from the start would be the best option, but something tells me that the truth of his situation is so bad that lying about it is the only chance he has of getting through this with even a shred of his 'career' still intact.
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  Did Satan keep on Attracting Demons to his side?

  by Lost in the fog in

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  if you still believe in god and the devil.. .

  where did the demons come from?.

  the wt says that they are the angels who came to earth and had relations with women on earth, who on return to heaven were thrown into tartarus.

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  I don't think the Bible ever specified how many angels turned away from God and joined Satan, nor does it tell how this process worked. Genesis 6 appears to refer to angels having sex with human women, and Revelation 12 mentions that the dragon (Satan) swept a third of the 'stars of heaven' down to Earth. If this is a reference to angels, it would imply that a lot of them joined the Devil. It does state that Satan and "his angels" were subsequently cast down to Earth.

  I don't recall if there is a specific reference to what happened to the angels from Genesis 6. But unless a very large number of them took human form in order to impregnate human women, it is reasonable to assume that other angels were led away from God by the Devil over time.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Yooters: Tell Lloyd to quit reading YT comments.

  He won't stop, he cannot help himself. He wants the last word, at any cost.

  Even YouTube --which tries its hardest to coddle content creators and protect them from harassment of even the mildest sort-- will probably realize that he's impossible to satisfy and ignore him.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  WingCommander: Lloyd was there, INVISIBLY. He was up in the woods, with his pants down around his ankles, rubbing one out against a tree as he observed the ladies below in shorts.

  It wouldn't be the first time he was found rubbing one out against a tree.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I think it means that they wouldn't cooperate with him, and with some of his requests. Lloyd being Lloyd, he probably got into a few arguments with them and, unable to just drop it and move on, decided to take a shot at them for not showing him the deference he expects.

  I would love for him to decide to take on the environmental lobby over something so petty. The blowback would be cataclysmic.
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  Would you still be angry with Lloyd Evans ?

  by BettyHumpter in

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  if instead of thailand, he had gone to a place where its legal and (supposedly) has some sort of oversight to prevent exploitation?

  like nevada in the u.s or amsterdam in europe?

  would the being unfaithful part still be a deal breaker as far as supporting his channel?

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  I find his situation fascinating and funny, mostly because he is an unpleasant person whose actions have led to his own humiliation, and his efforts to 'fix' things only ever make it worse. I think that for me, the one thing that would make me feel some sympathy for him would have been if he hadn't been such an obnoxious and mean person for so many years. We will root for people who fall, even when it is their own fault, if we feel that they are generally good or nice people. But we will enjoy the downfall of people who are arrogant and mean to others, especially when it is their own fault.

  For Evans, the issue is that he appears to depend primarily on the support of people who subscribe to his Patreon and who donate funds when he requests it. They are the ones who are likely very offended by the fact that he cheated. Some may be unwilling to support him for the act of buying sex, but I don't think that it would have sunk his efforts at fundraising by itself. I think that the issue for many of them is that this was an ongoing behavior from a married man with two children. Aside from the moral concern, there is also the worry that he might give his wife an STD. There would also be the concern that, if caught, he might end up in prison. Not so easy to make videos moralizing against a cult when you're locked up for a month or more.

  But for me, he's mostly just entertainment. His approach to this problem has been to fight back and go after anyone and everyone, because it enrages him to think that they're enjoying a bit of schadenfreude over his self-inflicted wounds. So he keeps stepping up to the public stage to try and salvage the situation, only to make things worse for himself. If I didn't know better, I'd say he was working on a sitcom.