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  Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

  my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

  he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

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  I bet that when they needed money, they told him that God was responsible for his success and it was his duty to 'honor Jehovah with his valuable things' or some similar nonsense.
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  Are You Concerned About Inflation?

  by Simon in

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  i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.

  that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?

  they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.

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  Food prices could be in for some steep increases due to the war in Ukraine, since a lot of the world's wheat and fertilizer are grown there and are being affected. Like fuel, those items affect a wide swath of industry. So, the pain can get a lot worse and for a longer time.

  I bought my house at the end of 2013, when prices were still very low and interest rates were only beginning to nudge upwards. I was planning to sell in 2019/2020, but took the house off the market when a friend and his family needed a place after their lease ended and the owner of the house they were renting was not going to renew. Now, with inflation as it is, the house is a good investment so I moved back and we have two full incomes (and two partial, from their son and another friend's son). I moved back because they were having some trouble with expenses. We are still feeling the pinch, but we can weather it for a while longer.

  The concern is more for the long term. We might be on the verge of a depression if the USA can't manage inflation before it goes out of control. I don't want to think about how things will go if that happens.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Toblerone5: He had a what? Mister I watch porn ,and masturbate in the bethel shower ,while he was at ministerial school ,had a requirements list?

  Remember, we're talking about a supremely self-centered person with delusions of grandeur, who readily excuses his own defects and hang-ups while sharply criticizing others for even the smallest offense.

  I agree with Vienne that he isn't controlled opposition. If Evans has a huge ego, that of the individual members of the GB are much, much larger by far. If they controlled him, he would not have spent so much time humiliating them and talking them down. Also, his downfall would have come much earlier. The WTS isn't the best at planning long term...
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  LMsA: FYI - Evans is not disfellowshipped - he is disassociated.

  That's interesting. He has committed the worst crime that the GB can imagine. It's the crime they accuse people of when they want to remove them quickly and for good. And they're okay with Evans just disassociating himself? There has to be an ulterior motive for them not to DF him as an apostate. Maybe he really does have the goods on them...
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  The problem for him is that he will be crowing about his "legal victories" while his detractors pay no penalty, instead continuing to make fun of him and talking about his embarrassing past (and his embarrassing present, since he is so lacking in self-awareness). Does he think that anyone will be content with his 'vindication' under those circumstances?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I'm wondering the same. I assume that, since it is a criminal case, it is handled by a prosecutor who would schedule hearings and court dates. Even if they are not contacting the accused, I expect Evans will keep his followers appraised of anything that happens so that he can keep pushing the narrative that he's taking action against his defamers. How many weeks has it been? The wheels of justice turn quite slowly, indeed...
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  Rosemont Cemetery II

  by RolRod in

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  okay, so here's a follow-up to my post a while back regarding the society tearing down the pyramid monument.

  they cleared the area and this is what they did.

  notice ... nothing about the watchtower connected to it, just slabs of cheap concrete..

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  Chas is short for Charles, but that's an informal thing, like calling Robert 'Bob.' I don't recall the WTS ever referring to Russell that way, so it's odd that they wouldn't formalize it, unless it was some weird last request.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  ...and tells the whole world about it.
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  JW Science Quote (1-22)

  by TD in

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  this week's installment in the science quotes of "celebrated jw scholars" concerns one of their perennial claims.

  based on a literal reading of genesis 1:30, jehovah's witnesses believe and teach that all animals were orginally designed to be vegetarians and that the restoration prophecies of isaiah foretell a return to this state.

  this has been stated many times in jw literature:.. .

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  The issue of 'how' never worried me: when you believe in a God that can do literally anything, a mass update of the DNA of every carnivore on the planet is just another "blink and it's done" moment.

  The issue of 'why' is the one I did not consider until years after I had faded. Occasionally, YouTube would point me to 'nature' videos of the violent behavior of some animal species. They are quite disturbing. Apparently, there are species of pack animals that will wait for a pregnant female (say, a deer) to be in labor pains, and then they attack, literally ripping the offspring from her body and dragging it away to eat, leaving the mother badly injured and in shock.

  And those aren't the most disturbing videos you can find. I've got a strong stomach, but there's so much I can watch before I pause the video and close the tab.

  It makes no sense to me, the idea that there is an intelligent being who would design a world where peace was the operating principle, then turn it into a ghastly mirror image of itself for any reason. The idea that this being is the personification of love and kindness, yet would condemn the world to thousands of years of such unnecessary pain and horror and suffering is not logical or reasonable.

  This being is so sensitive, that we are told He is aware of the passing of a small bird. So he must be watching when a crocodile grabs a water buffalo's leg and wrenches it hard enough to break it, then drags the horrified beast into the water to drown it, before tearing it to shreds and consuming it. Over and over and over, scenes like this happen all around the world. Day after day, year after year, for thousands of years. And this being watches it all. I am glad that I realized this only after coming to the conclusion that such a being doesn't exist.
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  Is WT Influencing Dubs To Check On Other Dubs' Activities Via ZOOM And Otherwise?

  by HiddlesWife in

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  the reason for my question is because one pimo has noticed that there are some pimis--particularly spimis--who have remarked that they "are not going to contact nor associate with the friends who are delinquent on zoom and/or at in-person kh meetings, conventions, and assemblies".

  i've noticed this as well: a few ppimis and pimqs who were very close to me and my exdub family members are hearing from them less and less lately than before last year's rc and this year's rc.

  so, is the above a thing nowadays?

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  There is a point at which they will have committed sufficiently to "the end is here" that they will not be able to walk it back. I hope this leads a lot of die-hards to realize that they are being fed a line, and maybe some of them will reconnect with shunned family and seek out a faith that doesn't demand that they be bad people.