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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  "The way these dating sites treat prominent professional activists is a travesty!"
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  If that were true, then every civil case would be proceeded by a criminal case, regardless of the chance of success.

  You are correct. I meant to refer to a case that has already been adjudicated, which can mean that it was dismissed by a judge (which is what I expect will happen) or that the defendant was found guilty or innocent. For Evans, the only outcome that would be useful to him would be a guilty verdict.
  
  
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  Anyone else remember the Awake saying this?

  by BottanicPepper in

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  i may have put this in the wrong thread.

  if so, i'm sorry.. my conundrum is this.... i am almost completely certain that an awake back in the 80's/90's mentioned a group of rock bands we shouldn't listen to and i seem to remember them actually naming guns and roses.. i can't find anything now, and i'm wondering if it's the mandela effect, or if it's another case of the cdrom versions of the awakes being doctored again.. does anyone else remember this?

  or am i crazy?

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  After a thousand years of burying billions of dead bodies, I can only imagine how bright the future will seem.
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  "this is why we need gods kingdom!"

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  jdubs go to answer when we see terrible tragedies.

  tell them it's been 20 years since columbine and 10 years since sandy hook!

  still nothing!.

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  We need God's kingdom. Just... not quite yet. If you think things are bad, remember that you are waiting on a being who made himself human just so he could spend a few days being horrifically tortured and killed. His tolerance for pain and suffering is way higher than you might imagine.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  2)So that when & if he lodges a civil suit, he can document that he registered a criminal complaint as supporting evidence?

  I think that depends on the rules regarding evidence for civil trials in Croatia. It's likely that they would allow it, since it can help with the determination of liability. But Evans would not want to refer to it unless there was a conviction. Stating in a civil trial that he tried to initiate criminal proceedings but was unsuccessful would hurt his case. An acquittal would be worse, and the defendants could use that to undermine his case (if they, for some reason, decided to travel to Croatia to defend themselves, lol). But the criminal case won't go anywhere. He filed it (assuming he really did file it) for the PR value.

  Or for what he perceived to be the PR value, anyway. I think the 'legal action' angle is a bad idea that will blow up in his face.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Well, I didn't mean self-awareness as in him realizing what kind of person he is. I mean at some point he might realize that his approach is hurting him and not helping. I don't expect he will ever do any honest self-reflection, but maybe he will realize that he needs to at least pretend that he understands why people are running from him.
  
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  Last nights Zoom meeting: Watching a nine year old on stage reading Bible passages

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  my nephew called me sunday night to tell me that his nine year old son was giving his first talk.

  he gave me the zoom i.d.. and password for his congregations in-person tuesday night meeting.. i haven't been to any meetings in nine years.

  many things have changed.

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  I was nine years old the first time I went on stage to read the week's Bible passage. Though I am pretty sure that my first few times were in one of the secondary rooms that only had seating for a dozen people or so. Those rooms were used for beginners a lot, since the smaller room/capacity made it more cozy and less intimidating.

  I did pretty well, I had an aptitude for public speaking. Which is odd, since I was also painfully (and I mean painfully) shy and withdrawn, most of the time.
  
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  Start of the Great Tribulation will be announced soon

  by joey jojo in

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  at the 2021 annual meeting, samuel herd revealed new light and claimed the anointed will all have passed away before armageddon.

  it has since been revealed that while they will die before armageddon, there will be some anointed still around that will witness the start of the great tribulation.. so the question is, how many years until the existing members of the governing body have passed away?.

  im not a doctor, but based on their age and various stages of obesity, im thinking 10- 15 years- give or take, sounds about right.. with that in mind, the great tribulation could be announced any day.. the new understanding has now freed the org from the burden of having to identify a particular generation in relation to the date of armageddon.

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  It is plain to see if you read the "words of Jesus" here

  Are you sure? There are few Bible passages that aren't interpreted in many ways, some of them completely at odds with each other. I am certain that there are many verses where the meaning should be plain, yet people still come to different conclusions. I think one major reason for this is that we are heavily influenced by our religious upbringing or guidance, so that we start with a specific set of beliefs that we work to maintain even before we've read a single Bible verse. Before we begin, we are already determined to interpret things a certain way. It derails any real attempt at gaining understanding of what is written.
  
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  Will the ministry ever resume?

  by optimisticskeptic in

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  going on 2+ years of no public ministry.

  can't imagine anyone is really enjoying letter writing still or that it's remotely effective.

  i'm a little shocked that we haven't resumed yet but i guess that's what happens when the org is run by a bunch of old people (ie high risk for covid) and a bunch of other sheltered germaphobes.

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  I would be surprised if they abandoned the door-to-door ministry, since it has been such a big part of their identity for so long. It is also a way for them to keep track of the membership and get a feel for who is losing enthusiasm.

  But they may not have a choice, if they find that people become resistant to it. They could always claim that the spirit has guided them to a new way of preaching, and make it seem like a great blessing that came at just the right time. New light!
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Lloyd -the childish video maker- had his patrons drop by thirty.

  If you had asked me in the past month, whether I thought he would lose any more patrons in large chunks, I would have said I highly doubt it. This is staggering.

  I wonder how many are finally learning about what happened, and how many were wavering and were finally put off as they realized that Evans was not remorseful about what he had done. Watching someone in his circumstances continue to be a jerk to people online has to be having more of an effect than I expected to see.

  I would not be surprised if he attempts an about-face at some point, to try and salvage what is left of his support. He would not do it with any sincerity, so it would probably be another train-wreck, and just hasten his downfall. But it would at least show what it would take for some self-awareness to slip in.