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  what are the craziest or most daming watchtowers ever printed?

  by Tobyjones262 in

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  2. beliefs

  so what is your favorite crazy or most damning watchtower?

  i can think of a few but one i went out and bought the bound vol for was the 1984 the generation that will not pass away.

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  Spiral

  Hi Tobyjones, I did the same thing! Found the bound volume online. Saving it in my closet.
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  Daily Text - 1/30/19

  by Jidders in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the love of the greater number will grow cold.​—matt.

  24:12. i read the daily text today, thoughts on a scripture that does seem to be somewhat fulfilled with the increase in atheism and alternative religions?

  it had definitely been going on back then but is it a general assumption?.

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  The love of the greater number will grow cold. —Matt. 24:12

  And what, specifically, does that mean? Love for God, a person's fellow man, family, art, or.....? And how much is a "greater number"? 55%, 70%, 90%? These kind of scriptures are vague, and can mean anything, just like that fortune you get in a fortune cookie.
  

  But beware allowing the JWs convincing you that it's a dire prediction for the future, and that you have to do anything about it.
  
  
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  this weeks video on older ones stepping down

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what i caught was how they were baffled by having to be in "the world".

  then any and all help came from friends offering money, food, apartments, jobs.

  can't anyone see how they people are used up and then discarded?.

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  Spiral

  @john.prestor, I was also listening in while my Mom and a friend listened to a video just this week. So slow in presentation it seemed to be aimed at a preschooler.... anyway, the whole theme was Jehovah will support you even if you tell your boss you can't work Sundays, meeting nights, etc., etc.

  They just love to encourage people to stay poor, don't they?

  I can't understand why more aren't annoyed by those fancy digs in NY, while they are living in public housing or older trailer homes out in the real world. I've seen some real poverty here in the last few years, it's sad because it was so unnecessary.
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  this weeks video on older ones stepping down

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what i caught was how they were baffled by having to be in "the world".

  then any and all help came from friends offering money, food, apartments, jobs.

  can't anyone see how they people are used up and then discarded?.

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  The other thing that stands out to me about these videos, and some of the depictions in the magazines, is the assumption that there are people in the congregations who have money and time to help elderly people. That disregards the reality of working people today, and of JWs in particular.
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  The King of the North has now entered into the 'land of decoration' (the Spiritual Estate of Jehovah's People) - Annual Meeting

  by Listener in

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  2. beliefs

  the final part of the october, 2018 annual meeting has now been released of jw org tv.the following includes a transcript of mark sanderson's speech for those that don't want to listen to the broadcast.. we have long held that the land of decoration is the "spiritual estate of jehovah's people"... now brothers what can we say about all these events that have taken place (referring to recent events in russia) in such a short period of time?

  well, truly, if you're a student of the history of god's organization, you can say these events are unprecedented in our history.

  we've never seen a country or a territory with 175,000 witnesses of jehovah go under ban.

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  Spiral

  This kind of mumbo jumbo prophetic interpretation gibberish always made my head hurt. I have such a hard time understanding why anyone falls for it.
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  Article: D.C. Attorney general proposes making clergy ‘mandated reporters’ of abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-attorney-general-proposes-making-clergy-mandated-reporters-of-abuse/2019/01/23/2a8f8f72-1f35-11e9-9145-3f74070bbdb9_story.html?utm_term=.1c7f810d688b.

  d.c. attorney general proposes making clergy ‘mandated reporters’ of abuse.

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  @DellaStreet, I am wondering the same thing. I also think a lot of elders do not understand they can have personal liability. Those who do will try hard not to "see" anything if they think they could be held responsible.
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  Anti vaccines

  by blisterfeet in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i personally feel that vaccinations are beneficial.

  there has been a modern movement that vaccinations are more harmful than beneficial to which i disagree.

  what is your stance as an ex jw on vaccinating your children?

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  Everyone is vaccinated in my family. As far as I know, all the JWs I know have vaccinated their children.
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  If you had to

  by rolliepollie in

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  if you had to follow one religion, what would it be and why?.

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  I can't think of a reason to ever have to join a church. Happy to be an athiest.
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  Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.

  i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.

  maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.

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  I've always thought this was true. Plus, the bOrg probably pretends to governments that the preaching work is an educational work (as in teaching people to read).

  When I volunteer at the local museum, they keep track of our volunteer hours and what we are doing during that time.

  But most JWs I know have never made this connection.

  But I wonder who in the government(s) is responsible to check up on this kind of stuff? Because someone should question it.
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  report from vomitville and financials

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i attended a circuit arsesemblancey today.

  melbourne, melton arsembley hall.

  western suburbs area.. 1. re hearing negative reports in the media about jws.

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  Spiral

  
  jonahstourguide
  

  Hi all,

  I attended a circuit arsesemblancey today. Melbourne, Melton arsembley hall. Western suburbs area.
  

  1. Re hearing negative reports in the media about jws. the classic first excuse offered was, " would you entertain a negative report about your spouse?" You love your spouse so you know it's wrong". "Then we must remember that jehovah is backing his people and if there is anything to correct jehovah will fix it in his own time". "So if stories like these are affecting us here are two scriptures to help us,,, Ps 94:19,,, Phil 4:6,7".

  Sooooooo...... if your spouse is a criminal you look the other way, because you love them? And that makes them NOT a criminal? (Or a pedophile, specifically, in some cases.)

  Like that's how it really works.

  And they've been saying "Jehovah will fix "X" problem in his own time" for decades. Nothing ever gets fixed.