Posts by Spiral

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JW Investment Tip

by neat blue dog in

when your fridge is getting empty, what should you do?

a recent wt shows the ideal next step.

(in picture form, so all ages/education levels can understand.).

I was appalled when I saw this watchtower. Just recently I heard of a case of a 62 year old sister on her last dime, trying to do odd jobs, no money, no savings, no retirement, but a "good sister" (as in, went out in service a lot).

Well guess what, she just had a car accident. Hurt, car totaled, needed medical care she has no insurance for. Did anyone give her any real help? No, partly because no one else has any money! She has to go live with her "worldly" son. (Said like it's a bad thing.)

This article is undue influence. But really, if a person can't see through this sham, they are also to blame.

Cult!

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A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

by Tallon in

hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

Spiral

@cha ching (about sisters messing up their bibles).

The sisters do most of the preaching work, and yet the brothers feel free to insult them.

BTW, I don't believe I ever saw a sister ruin her bible with lipstick. Ridiculous.

I can't believe any ever stay in this organization.

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A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

by Tallon in

hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

Spiral

I'm afraid to ask..... why is the "silver sword" sister proof?

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A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

by Tallon in

hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

Spiral

Tallon, I've been giving this thread some thought.

The biggest problem with being a submissive women in the bOrg is that you might think [convince yourself] that it's the truth, try to "toe the line", be a good publisher, blah blah blah...... but, as a woman:

Do you even like the organization? You follow the rules, but do you even like it? Do you even like being a JW?

More and more, I am seeing women (my age, 50+ somethings) quietly dropping out. Some hang on hoping for the new order, seeing dead loved ones, taking care of animals, etc., but when they are honest with themselves, they don't even like being a witness. They don't even like their JW husbands. Elder or not.

Maybe that's behind that "best life ever" campaign. Brainwashing the women back into submission.

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A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

by Tallon in

hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

Spiral

Also, I have no interest in talking to the GB about changes. They are the problem.

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A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

by Tallon in

hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

Spiral

Very unfulfilling. Can't do a thing without asking a man. I got to thinking, would I really want to live forever as a Stepford Wife?

The answer is no. Even if I believed their prophecies of "paradise on earth", having it like that is not for me.

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Family is now reaping what they sowed and they don't like it.

by Gemmel in

i resigned from the jw's in my 20's over 30 years ago, i was immediately shunned by my entire family and it's remained that way with a few exceptions ever since.

one of those exceptions was being contacted by a cousin a few years back and during that conversation i discovered that my mother had been and still was the prime mover in my complete and continuing shunning.

i then used what contacts i had left to confirm it.

Spiral

Spiral - "...they are all like selfish children..."

Honestly, I kinda suspect the WT wants 'em that way.

Absolutely they do. Easier to keep them all in line. It does nothing to help them cope in the real world, but the bOrg doesn't care about that.

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Family is now reaping what they sowed and they don't like it.

by Gemmel in

i resigned from the jw's in my 20's over 30 years ago, i was immediately shunned by my entire family and it's remained that way with a few exceptions ever since.

one of those exceptions was being contacted by a cousin a few years back and during that conversation i discovered that my mother had been and still was the prime mover in my complete and continuing shunning.

i then used what contacts i had left to confirm it.

Spiral

Gemmel, I agree with you 100%. Had I ever been treated like that, I wouldn't feel any obligation. And if by some miracle your mother got better and money wasn't needed, they would continue to shun you.

I've seen this scenario a lot in the last couple of years. I know of one drama like this right now. The parents have basically disowned their adult (now "out of the truth" children). Suddenly they are elderly and need help, and there is no one. When I heard this I said, have they had any relationship with their children over the years and was told no, they didn't speak. If that's the case, then why should the children help now? You really do reap what you sow.

But I see that the bOrg is at the beginnings of a HUGE problem. No one has any savings, time, or energy to care for themselves or elderly parents who have been in for decades. No infrastructure or support offered by the bOrg.

And - they are all like selfish children. Most of them give almost no care to their elderly ones, even if they are all still "in". It's as if they don't have the emotional maturity to care. Very dysfunctional. The bOrg has made everyone into children (mentally), and they can't cope with this stage of life, or caring for each other. It's really disturbing to watch (as a "inactive one" looking in from the outside).

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No Watchtower shipment

by LevelThePlayingField in

it was announced at our clam that there "was no shipment of the october study editions of the watchtower" and that they were asking if people could just use electronic or make their own copies.. is this just happening in ohio, or did you hear the same thing?.

Spiral

When I was still trying to take my Mom to the meeting (2 plus years ago) the congregation NEVER had any extra study magazine copies to distribute. They wanted me to print for her (which I did) but a couple of times an elderly man that I knew would come and he wouldn't have the magazine, and they had nothing to give him. It was intentional, no copies in stock. Sad for him, because he wanted one and no one was offering to print for him either.

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Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses

by AndersonsInfo in

https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.

montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .

a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .

Spiral

ExJWReddit also now has a list of news outlets carrying the story Yeah!