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  QFR- Is the use of Toilet Paper appropriate for True Christians today?

  by Theocratic Sedition in

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  2. friends

  4/1/1967 wt.

  for years, modern civilization has used the commercially available product known as toilet paper to cleanse one's rear posterior.

  it is a common practice that has permeated almost all** of the inhabited earth.

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  Jofi_Wofo

  @FatFreek 20053 days ago

  My WT library has absolutely no reference to "toilet paper" or wiping the posterior.

  We better write a letter to the branch. In the meantime, let's hold off on using toilet paper until we get further instruction.
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  QFR- Is the use of Toilet Paper appropriate for True Christians today?

  by Theocratic Sedition in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  4/1/1967 wt.

  for years, modern civilization has used the commercially available product known as toilet paper to cleanse one's rear posterior.

  it is a common practice that has permeated almost all** of the inhabited earth.

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  Jofi_Wofo

  Absolutely hilarious, and 100% accurate to the logic, verbiage and tone of the WT.
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  Fear > Facts (WT Study Article 12/6/2020

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a doozy in today's study article brought me to post here for the first time in a while.

  once again, watchtower leadership is doing its level best to make their adherents as fearful of inconvenient facts as they, themselves, are.. "like timothy, we must also discern the danger of false information spread by apostates.

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  A doozy in today's study article brought me to post here for the first time in a while. Once again, Watchtower leadership is doing its level best to make their adherents as fearful of inconvenient facts as they, themselves, are.

  "Like Timothy, we must also discern the danger of false information spread by apostates. (1 Tim. 4:1, 7; 2 Tim. 2:16) For example, they might try to spread false stories about our brothers or raise doubts about Jehovah’s organization. Such misinformation could undermine our faith. We must avoid being fooled by this propaganda. Why? Because these types of stories are spread “by men who are corrupted in mind and deprived of the truth.” Their goal is to start “arguments and debates.” (1 Tim. 6:4, 5) They want us to believe their slander and develop wicked suspicions about our brothers."

  If the needle-in-a-haystack Jehovah's Witness religion really was the truth, then it should follow that those who believe in it are especially adept, maybe even the best in the world, at determining what is false versus what is true. If the Watchtower needs to steer the best and brightest truth-seekers away from listening to those who do not agree with them via emotional manipulation (appeal to group loyalty, guilt tripping, the threat of the punishments of ostracism and eventual destruction), then what does that say about how confident Watchtower is in the evidentiary foundation of its doctrine? Or the morality and honesty of its organization? What else can we possibly conclude here other than that Watchtower knows that lovers of truth would have their faith shaken, if not completely destroyed, the very moment that they allow themselves to hear a second opinion? The foundation of the faith is weak, but they gaslight members into believing that it is their own personal faith that is weak if they question the truth of what they are being told by the organization. Thus completes one of WT's favorite conflations- claiming that "faith" is not credulity, and is arrived at by looking at the facts, but also claiming that faith is a virtue that must be sustained by avoiding, at all costs, the facts that they don't want you to know.

  "In the same way, we can rehearse beforehand which “exit” we will take if we suddenly encounter an immoral scene, graphic violence, or apostate material while using the Internet or while watching a movie or TV program. If we prepare for what might happen, we can act quickly to escape spiritual harm and remain clean in Jehovah’s eyes"

  I've never once known a geologist to say "Don't even listen to the dangerous flat-earthers, or you might start to believe them!!!". Nor have I ever known an atheist to say "Don't read the Bible! It might turn you into a Christian!"

  What's more dangerous- to listen to what opposers have to say, or to be a part of an organization that coerces you into NOT listening to what opposers say?
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  Possible other names for Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Clarkey in

  1. social
  2. humour

  world wide association of liars.

  organization of delusional sociopaths.

  jehovah's publishing corporation .

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  Jofi_Wofo

  100% not mine, but I read someone on this site call it "The Watchtower Libel & Crap Society".

  Still makes me chuckle when I think of it.
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  1914 Dropped

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was observing an online conversation between a jw and a former-jw.

  the non-jw pointed out that wwi cant have had anything to do with satan supposedly being "cast out of heaven" because wwi was already well under way in oct 1914.. the jw proceeds to explain that satan was actually thrown down to the earth in 1915 and that he started to wreak havock on the earth from heaven knowing he was about to be cast out.. so 1914 is officially old light now?

  does anyone have a source for that or was this brother lying through his teeth?.

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  Oddly, this is something I realized before I was even baptized, but it still didn't hold me back... yes, I'm apparently a complete moron.

  Even the WT literature, if you look deeply enough, acknowledges that satan was cast out DURING WWII, not before, and yet still pushes the claim that satan's casting out was what CAUSED WWII. it's one of those "mysteries" that they never explain.
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  That escalated quickly... (Quote from today's Zoom public talk)

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the speaker at my wife's meeting: "a discouraging word can lead to inactivity, apostasy and death.".

  i mean, what the...??????

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  Later in the talk: "Please remember that apostate literature is dangerous to our spiritual health. It exists only to deceive us, and should not be looked at under any circumstances."

  Makes me wonder how anyone in the org can be trusted to know what "apostate literature" is all about if they're not supposed to be looking at it...

  I've never seen The Village, but I'm familiar with the story. It seems that the dear JW spiritual paradise is a secondary fulfilment of that movie's twist ending.
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  That escalated quickly... (Quote from today's Zoom public talk)

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the speaker at my wife's meeting: "a discouraging word can lead to inactivity, apostasy and death.".

  i mean, what the...??????

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  The speaker at my wife's meeting: "A discouraging word can lead to inactivity, apostasy and death."

  I mean, what the...??????
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  Why Do Intelligent People Still Believe In The Jehovah’s Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i understand it’s a cult.

  but what makes an intelligent person actually believe they have the “truth” as taught by jehovah’s witnesses??

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  I think Carmichael has this thread on lock, so I'll just add some commentary to what he has already laid out.

  If we were to list the top 100 reasons why human beings come to have beliefs, whether religious or otherwise, missing from the list would be that the belief is true. It's simply not relevant to our survival whether or not what we believe is actually true, but whether or not our general responses to that belief are conducive to our well-being- most especially our collective survival.

  The reason why religious beliefs persist despite evidence to the contrary is because, until very recently in history, it was next to impossible to survive without having unwavering loyalty to your tribe and deep suspicion of outsiders.

  To understand just how well this works, take note of something that I only recently came to realize, despite having it thrown in my face for nearly 2 decades of being physically in with various levels of being mentally in-and-out. Watchtower constantly conflates the factuality of belief with the morality of belief. That is to say, they claim that their faith is objectively based on evidence, but also claim that whether you agree or disagree depends, not on your efforts to examine the facts, but on whether or not you are a good person. It's not even a subtle trick that they pull, but it's still easy to overlook because we are psychology primed to make that connection.

  Disagreeing with one's religious beliefs has, again, until very recently had a near perfect correlation with being either a rebel or an outsider of one's tribe, indicating that the person should be looked at with suspicion. Watchtower capitalizes on this fact better than most religions in the developed world by rather cleverly intertwining their religious activities with every single possible aspect of the life of an adherent. The farther you stray from absolute conformity with belief in Watchtower creed, the closer you get to losing your membership to the tribe.

  It may not be anywhere near as dangerous as it used to to be cast out of your tribe, but our unconscious brains don't know that, since they were evolved to live under much different conditions than what we currently experience. Thus, our cognitive faculties work desperately to prevent us from changing our minds.
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  Did you attend the ''Always Rejoice!'' 2020 Convention? You missed out on true HAPPINESS!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  2020 convention of jehovah’s witnesses: “always rejoice”!.

  in this problem-filled world, true happiness can be found.

  learn how to rejoice constantly!

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  Nita and Jade were both hot af. A lot of the young women they use in the videos over the years have been easy on the eyes. Not a coincidence, I'm sure.
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  World Wide Work Resolution Doubled Overnight

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  during covid-19 crisis our hall decides to double the amount sent to hq from our local account.

  the resolution is unanimously supported, no questions asked.

  has anyone else had this happen?.

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  My wife's congregation just gave a $7k lump sum to the Branch. They were doing so well with donations and keeping under budget that they had saved enough for 6 months of expenses rather than the recommended 3 months. Ergo, ZOINK, Watchtower just snatches it from under them and nobody makes a peep.

  Let's review.

  If an individual JW has extra funds, SHAME ON HIM! He's not depending on Jehovah.

  If a congregation has extra funds, SHAME ON THEM! They're hoarding and need to share.

  If the Watch Tower Society has an abundance of funds because they shamed everyone else's money into their own pockets, PRAISE JAH! Our Heavenly Father has certainly blessed our efforts!