when i got baptized as a jehovah’s witness in the summer of 83, my honeymoon period lasted about two years before i began to wonder if the society and its adherents were all it claimed to be.
no of the things i encountered for the first few years was really faith shattering, they simply just made me pause and think.
after a short while, i would file those issues in the back of my brain files and move forward.. .
@scratchme, I agree. And it's incongruous with their deepities about God looking for the good and past our sins.
When this kind of information is recorded and stored anywhere, it is humiliating and it can absolutely be stolen, just as it was left available to Donny. So why do it?
Another reason to not discuss things with an elder without a lawyer present.
due to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
@scratchme, much as I'm sure it's a variation on a previous theme, this one's pretty direct, and short... And desperate... And pleading... And stupid.
They're coming off like a bad lover.
due to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
the last time i spoke to my mother, who is a devout jw, she threatened me with typical jw scare tactics telling me how oh so close the end is and how me and my 2 young daughters will be slaughtered by god himself in armageddon.
knowing that this is just a scare tactic, i respectfully listened, then replied that the jw's have wrongfully predicted the end of the world three times and were incorrect, 1914, 1925, 1975. i asked doesn't that make them false prophets?
her response; " no, because the brothers are imperfect and jehovah knew their heart was in a sincere place.
I get this kind of response too. Simple logic is outweighed by the paradise earth and resurrection and not wanting to admit they've been duped.
some facts that make the difference between you and me:.
1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.
how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.
@Lee Elder, oh sure. I understand that, and I hope my post doesn't sound too strong. We do need validation and understanding and community.
when i got baptized as a jehovah’s witness in the summer of 83, my honeymoon period lasted about two years before i began to wonder if the society and its adherents were all it claimed to be.
no of the things i encountered for the first few years was really faith shattering, they simply just made me pause and think.
after a short while, i would file those issues in the back of my brain files and move forward.. .
Hi Donny. I lived in Sulphur Springs for a time as a teenager and my great grandmother served in Paris, TX.
I've also heard how detailed these reports and interrogations can get. Let me guess, they wanted to determine if there was "greed" or something.
some facts that make the difference between you and me:.
1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.
how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.
Nailed it, sparrowdown.
I do not feel sorry for myself or any other born-in for that reason alone. No, part of life is making an informed change for the better, and it's manifest even in our storytelling. (Fish out of water? Hero's journey?) Don't give up, and don't ask for sympathy all the time.
I'm not saying never or that sympathy is always bad, but how much validation do you really need or expect? Pick yourself up, breathe in, breathe out, and carry on.
where is the garden of eden?.
i don't mean where in the world, i mean where in history.
adam and eve get booted out of this place.
@David_Jay, to paraphrase Joseph Campbell's Hero With A Thousand Faces, "When a myth is mistaken for history, it is killed."
where is the garden of eden?.
i don't mean where in the world, i mean where in history.
adam and eve get booted out of this place.
@David_Jay, my research corroborates what you say as well, and I am sure the story had more significance after the exile to Babylon. (Expulsion from paradise being the key detail.) I am aware that the tree of life, etc. were common in Mesopotamian lore, with roots back in ancient Egypt and Africa, but there is a theory that the particular telling in Genesis originated after 587 BCE.
where is the garden of eden?.
i don't mean where in the world, i mean where in history.
adam and eve get booted out of this place.
To answer the question: Missouri. ;)
