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  Do you believe in ultimate justice?

  by Fisherman in

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  ultimate justice means that conduct is not inconsequential.

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  waton

  Why should the timing of ones death determine

  or the timing of ones birth? think of the millions of kids, cats, dogs, whatnot who died in Egypt because they were the firstborn. who says the faithful [angels] do not keep track of birthdays?
  
  
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  Will Ukraine win?

  by Fisherman in

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  i was under the impression that it was going to be a short war, that russia’s military would indeed subdue ukraine’s forces quickly but that is not happening.

  seems that russia’s military power is much less than it’s reputed to be.

  no guess how it will all end..

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  It is a sad day when a superpower has to threaten a little country like Ukraine with nuclear annihilation (of its defences)

  Japan had suffered bigger daily losses in the fire bombings than the nukes. What also triggered Japan's surrender was the imminent threat of an Soviet occupation, with all its known horrors for the civilian population. (as compared with the benevolent US variety, as seen in Europe, 1945). ( ppsh41 bullets and boots vs, nylons and chocolate)

  Whenever there was a moral superiority of the allies vs the Central powers, it was lost in 1945.

  That is why Ukraine has that esprit de corps. it is fighting for the fate reserved for those conquered by the bear.

  We would live in a better world had England issued an ultimatum to the invaders of Poland from the east too, as by treaty, in 1939,.
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  A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist

  by Giles Gray in

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  i would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.

  i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.

  i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.

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  waton

  the Bible does not give a BCE date for the fall of Jerusalem ,it is calculated by men .
  What the Bible does say is “ Do not put your trust in nobles nor in the son of earthling man”

  It also says: "it is not given to you to understand times and seasons--" Acts 1:7, addressing the future member of the "governing body".

  Even Einstein, and follow-uppers do not understand time. (see current New Scientist)
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  NASA: Humans Back to the Moon

  by Gerard in

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  nasa plans return to moon by 2020

  "this vision aims to return humans to the moon, and then to use it as a staging point for a manned mission to mars.

  i wonder if jws will be required to canvas those areas too.

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  The program is a strange mix of having a super sized lander, fit for Mars, land on the moon (after having flown empty from Earth).

  It takes fanatical dedication to make it all work, A leaky gasket stopped the whole train. Money spend in the right place. we need more technical excellence not more and better payed welfare recipients.
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  Will Ukraine win?

  by Fisherman in

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  i was under the impression that it was going to be a short war, that russia’s military would indeed subdue ukraine’s forces quickly but that is not happening.

  seems that russia’s military power is much less than it’s reputed to be.

  no guess how it will all end..

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  Elon Musk, has a proposal to have UN supervised elections or referendums in the Russian occupied areas of Ukraine.

  Great idea, if you first remove the Russians from that stretch of land to guarantee free choice, and

  allow all displaced person that fled or were deported to have free vote too, Gathering Ukrainian votes from Athens, Berlin Cincinnati and Vladivostok,
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  PARADISE or Realm of the DEAD?

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/enrefpqcgry.

  my latest video on paradise how jesus' view of paradise has nothing to do with the watchtower's "panda bear" new system!.

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  " you will be with me in paradise" These simple words, uttered through clenched teeth, between 2 dying men. equate "paradise" with the most desired absence of pain, in this case.

  Pandas or 70 virgins, would be a small but superfluous added detail.

  take your tylenol. morphine. again.

  steel yourself for the next bout.
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  Are Russian sanctions backfiring and US citizens paying the price?

  by Fisherman in

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  so many sanctions against russia but it appears that the us is affected more than russia by those sanctions..

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  US citizens? how about the hapless citizens of the USoG? Russia 300 miles away, blown pipelines, locked into cut off oil supply? but: wir affen schaffen das.
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  Was PARADISE really paradise?

  by Terry in

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  paradise.

  was it really paradise to be in paradise?

  adam and eve never were held by a mother, never cuddled and sung to with a lullaby nor nursed or coddled with tenderness or any human familial embrace.

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  waton

  We must not conflate infinity with eternity. Time began with creation

  there was always time, it had no beginning.

  That is the best rendering of Eve I have seen. btw.
  
  
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  Will Ukraine win?

  by Fisherman in

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  i was under the impression that it was going to be a short war, that russia’s military would indeed subdue ukraine’s forces quickly but that is not happening.

  seems that russia’s military power is much less than it’s reputed to be.

  no guess how it will all end..

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  waton

  four regions in Ukraine, which are currently being fought for. I think they are digging in for the long haul.

  It will be very difficult to dislodge the Russian army from these conquered lands without international help on a totally different level. Like try to take a bone from a dog or grizzly, can be done. These are the resource - richest provinces, the main price catch.

  The best time to get out of that region was before the start of the overlapping generations. left to overlap in safer places. Many Millionaire families now. .
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  Will Ukraine win?

  by Fisherman in

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  i was under the impression that it was going to be a short war, that russia’s military would indeed subdue ukraine’s forces quickly but that is not happening.

  seems that russia’s military power is much less than it’s reputed to be.

  no guess how it will all end..

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  waton

  --win?

  not if the many blessing ceremonies by the Orthodox priests for the 300 000+ new fighters have any possible positive effect.