6c. The generation of 1914 (the anointed) will pass away at the outset of the great Tribulation.
scripture: that will not happen until after armageddon. In the first century, the last witnesses died 32+ years after the fall of Jerusalem.
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7220 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 ini don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.
that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.
unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .
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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 ini don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.
that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.
unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .
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waton
that the 1914 generation will not pass away when babies born in 1914 are 108 years old today?
6a. to not pass away you have to be a baptized, time reporting witness, with 15 minutes per month minimum.
born in 1914, baptized as consenting adults would be 1o8+ years old today. Are there more than 2 million or any 1o8+ year old in the congregations today? will there be over 2 million such 120 year olds in 1934
6b there will be 2 million 100 year old overlappers in 2075?
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman inobviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
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waton
Roughly speaking, all (including bible writers) aspired to a world without sin and sinner, not a world with lazy repeat sinners whose crimes against "divine law" keep on being forgiven because they believe in the ransom giver{s}
Adam and Eve paid for their sin, why should we be punished for them? not just Jesus the second adam. . let's carry on.-- with clearer better, goals. may be a second Eve? a Jesusess? after all,
we already have perfect woman, or belved sweethearts
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Arthritis pain. What works for you?
by Fisherman inthere are several prescription meds people use to relieve the pain of arthritis.
they work by suppressing the immune system or by reducing inflammation.
people also use otc anti-inflammatory pills, and even anti-allergy pills are reported to work because of being able to also reduce inflammation but people tell me that they are concerned to use some meds regularly because of potential side effects in long term use.
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waton
pain in the hip was cured by a joint replacement, at 91+ no pain left. Has the Gt passed and I slept through it? haha.
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Elder Arrangement
by vienne inhi everyone, (including the person who down votes all of my posts).
as some of you know, i'm working toward my master's degree.
comments from those associated when the elder arrangement was introduced would help me with a research paper.. what was the reaction among adherents?
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waton
To appreciate the impact of a system where each year, personnel is moved through positions regardless of wishes or special aptitudes, consider
the congregation described in post #5. In 1974, the position of " congregation servant " was held by a highly qualified, capable and kind brother that was the operating officer of a company that was tops in its field, serving the state/ federal government contracts. Truly a natural administrator. As the merry go round rotated, he had to vacate his pivotal "theocratic" position to a man , with a loose tongue, who's best skill was with a skilsaw, -really a man working for the country's elite too. but you get it, the contrast could not be greater.
It was a good thing that the congregation paper works could run on autopilot while that arrangement lasted. Nevertheless, A new leadership style was tried, and liked by the members. (It was 1975 after all, ha ha.) --again--. But this went on every year, --for every position/function in the congregation. Great things were actually happening. so, normally
The cream or scum can rise to the top, and stay there, naturally. Rotation minimized the damage, but the good done too.
A boon for true Christianity, ( it was based on the chairman roles in the Jerusalem congregation's special meetings),- a disaster for a the ingrained super ego types***, the "system".
*** they had to watch the congregation bloom during their demotion year.
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Elder Arrangement
by vienne inhi everyone, (including the person who down votes all of my posts).
as some of you know, i'm working toward my master's degree.
comments from those associated when the elder arrangement was introduced would help me with a research paper.. what was the reaction among adherents?
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waton
Elders rotating in a different way
rtn: re elders hitting on their underlings. Imagine a publisher married to a younger stunning oriental and demure beauty.
Elders constantly trying to assign themselves to have her work in their "field service" car group, the husband in another, scheduling her alone to go "on calls" with them; Choosing kh seats so they can gawk for 2 hours at a time at the "best view" in the room. elders allowing this to go on too. At every meeting squeezing into the front door the moment the object of their frustrated fantasies tries to enter. . true stories in 2 out of 3 congregations.
Peter in his letters prophesied, warned against these conditions, adulterous eyes, hidden rocks,
wt appointees fulfilling bible prophecies. following David's lead.
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Elder Arrangement
by vienne inhi everyone, (including the person who down votes all of my posts).
as some of you know, i'm working toward my master's degree.
comments from those associated when the elder arrangement was introduced would help me with a research paper.. what was the reaction among adherents?
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waton
road to now where, so true, if you have an attractive, slim, good wife, in wt land your family is in peril. My better half was propositioned more than once when in bethel for "kingdom courses" some thought is for intercourses I guess.
Wt following David their example here, going after bathing beauties while the husband is "serving" on duty.
A shameful outfit, really.
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Elder Arrangement
by vienne inhi everyone, (including the person who down votes all of my posts).
as some of you know, i'm working toward my master's degree.
comments from those associated when the elder arrangement was introduced would help me with a research paper.. what was the reaction among adherents?
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waton
was "serving " in leader capacity since 1959. one funny reaction after the rotating elder arrangement happened in 1974, when it was my turn to take on the "presiding" role. (among those in our cong were associateds to future branch and GB material) {not me}. anyway, on the last BOE meeting before the start of the 1975 service year I mentioned that little me, as of Sept.1 would spend the last year in this system by resuming my pioneer carriere.
well, one or two chins dropped. They did not like the idea that I would keep tap on all the goings on by being in constant contact with the pleb. The very capable professional leaders hated every moment of the years of their subservient role.
In 1975 the congregation discovered that I am a natural in languages ( I served in the "foreign language field", in a 3rd, quickly learned learned tongue. Needless to say that no better skills in the HH ministry could stem the decline in membership decline after 1975 paradise fizzle.
I think that wt i missed then a golden opportunity to come closer to embody the Ideals taught by Jesus.
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman inobviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
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waton
while the deity was obsessed with the later law of an eye or an eye in the ransom arrangement, conveniently was forgotten the principle that children should not be punished for misdeeds of their parents, yet meting out the death penalty to billions of unsuspecting newborn.
With mutations in the creator's quiver of creation tools, this quick genetic fix could have avoided that miscarriage of justice of killing all his human children for the sake of a missing fruit.
Fisherman think about it, we are not a flawed creation, " and it was good)". evolved just fine.
we do not need salvation except from the looming environmental and weapons disasters of our making.
Re.11:18 --- come.
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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?
by Vanderhoven7 init seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.
who is the way, the truth and the life?
(john 14:6).
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waton
I always preferred to spend most of my contemplative free time on naturalistic concepts.
Disillusioned JW: how about these non biblical messages from a possible creator: on Earth, our home, the first planet where life was discovered:
10 fingers of prime species, number 10 in the planetary sequence (4,7,10,16, 28 52, 100 ,196, 292, 388,-) b) orbital velocity, 1/10 000 of "c", Einstein's key, the universal speed limit. c) surface gravity: 10 ms^2, d) Orbit diameter, 1000 light seconds, e) surface atmospheric pressure: 10 m of water; --Earth turns 100 times faster than our Moon---
PS. obviously the universe, the father's work are presented to us as a puzzle to be solved by enlightening science research.
number puzzles,
"appeared to 500 brothers"? solved: composed of 7x70 evangelizers, plus the 11 apostles, minus the one who counted, but forgot to tabulate himself.
sorry for the off topic trivia offence. .
waton, I think you meant verse 4 instead of verse 3.
thank you, showing my 90+age.