Posts by waton

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Are JWs preaching Paul's Gospel or something beyond Paul's Gospel?

by Vanderhoven7 in

paul's gospel: .

now, brothers and sisters, i want to remind you of the gospel i preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.

2 by this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word i preached to you.

waton

Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." (Watchtower, September 1, 1989 p. 19) VH,

This premise has changed of course, wt's new light has it the anointed [generation] will not survive Armageddon, but be gone at the outset of the Great Tribulation, unlike the anointed of the first century generation, in the first fulfillment.

It wt can not even get the generation right, how do they dare promise survival?

The overlap is the final lapse. in the 100% failure record.

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Are JWs preaching Paul's Gospel or something beyond Paul's Gospel?

by Vanderhoven7 in

paul's gospel: .

now, brothers and sisters, i want to remind you of the gospel i preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.

2 by this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word i preached to you.

waton

often wondered why Jehovah's Witnesses seem to spend so much time in the Old Testament. tbk

Such as the current weekly treatment of David.

A war criminal that would be hanged beside Goering at Nuremberg. A collector of human skin surpassing Ilse Koch. A pervert having an exclusive taste fro other men's wives. A bandit leader using death threats to extort his payouts. making bad decision that needlessly killed tens of thousands on and on. declaring himself to be a man according to the deity's heart.

no clear speak in the congregations.

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Remembering back

by Hellothere in

anything you remember that went in org that you feel embarrassed now?

i remember back in the 80s how seems like every magazine was about bashing other group's.

how holy and faithful watchtower was compared to catholic church.

waton

Conducting a home 'bible' study using the brown "let God be True" book, and being berated by the Baptist householder on the superior Authorities being, according to the wt doctrine, Jehovah and Jesus. then, coming home and having on my bed, in the newly arrived brown wrapper, the wt subscription (free for special pioneers).

Skimming through, finding on the last page, "question from readers" that wt had removed The Father and Son from their position in worldly government.. then,

as wt conductor having to encourage the congregation to read that magazine in full, with that "new light"

In other words. The churches, (very powerful in that territory) Babylon the Great was right all along, wt was wrong.

Had that brownity feeling, Found out since, that most of the stuff is wrong anyway. even the brown nosing in the org. up to the doctrine directors.

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Wrong Religion

by Vanderhoven7 in

we brainstormed a while back on this forum and pooled our knowledge on how to recognize false religion.

i think the list is worth reviewing and adding to if possible.

please feel free to correct and or add insights of your own to this list:.

waton

from a deist standpoint, the Universe, is a very successful enterprise, and at least on this planet life sparked up and flourished.

It stands to reason, that if there is, or would be a continuation to that process, and those that contributed well to the maintaining and advancement of good progress would be useful in furthers activities in that endeavour, then some form of after life might be in the plan.

in the mean time, dont be mean, treat your presence in the present as a present, do well, that is good enough. enJpy.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

waton

Call it a draw

spelled back ward reads:

ward at ill ac.

Imagine it there was no talking snake , the whole thing made up, as the bard would say "much ado about nothing" ?

A for effort though.

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Help please.

by lastmanstanding in

recently, in the past few months, and this only applies to in dubs who might have taken note, the watchtower study edition made a change.

it mentioned the “warning work” where dubs are going to march around and proclaim everyone is going to die.. anyway, this article said it was now only a possibility, not a sure thing.. i can’t find it.

did watchtology change it already?.

waton

since , according to current wt doctrine all anointed partakers , most prominently the eminent Governing Body cum Faithful and Discreet Slave will at the onset of the Great Tribulation depart for heaven, the wt organisation will be on auto pilot, and

may be another virus outbreak at that time will confine all wt warriors to the barracks again. Anyway, according to Jesus' words, non of this will happen as wt predicted, because he is reported to have said,

that the generation (the wt anointed) will not pass away, to heaven or the other place after and until the Gt and sundry other signs, events have occurred first.

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Wrong Religion

by Vanderhoven7 in

we brainstormed a while back on this forum and pooled our knowledge on how to recognize false religion.

i think the list is worth reviewing and adding to if possible.

please feel free to correct and or add insights of your own to this list:.

waton

God is faithful to his word and he will give every human being the opportunity to find him. GB.

"God will destroy those destroying the Earth." Rev 11. so, look at your actions and determine your fate.

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Wrong Religion

by Vanderhoven7 in

we brainstormed a while back on this forum and pooled our knowledge on how to recognize false religion.

i think the list is worth reviewing and adding to if possible.

please feel free to correct and or add insights of your own to this list:.

waton

Everybody has a long list of complaints against the Bible, against Jesus, against God. But are they valid and who decides? Fisherman,

note that Van der Hofen's list is not beefs against the scriptures, but deal with the ever changing "light" S.F, emanating from Columbia Heights. Brooklyn, War wick. NY USA. and their instance to remove dissenters, even if the objections raised, corrections suggested, are later taught as true food in due season.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

waton

the simple truth about wt's 1914 prediction was, that they fully expected to go to heaven at the onset of that great Tribulation.

wt still predicts that, to happen, with a new overlapping time line, not later than 2075. trouble is,

Jesus nowhere mentioned any of that. He said instead, The generation will not die until everything is over, has passed, not the beginning.

wt and 1914? wt is wrong, coming and going. from A to Z

540

Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

waton

"It is entirely mundane that God’s kingdom is a theme in Daniel " Jeffro the scholar

Wt writers perplexed me with mundane food*. The diet of grass the crazed Nebuchadnezzar ate, unprepared (still remember the unkempt emperor's hairdo, at ground level).

How wt twisted the meaning of that episode into the symbol for the "Kingdom of God being abased between 607 and 1914" is an incredible feat. imho. it is an degrading insult that can only be excused as the product of twisted minds.

* pertaining to the mouth,"Mund" in german.