Posts by waton

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is The trial of Adam and Eve an evil? resulting in more evil?

by waton in

for months, week by week, wt devotees have been hammered to use just one bible text in 'the ministry',.

james 1:3 " - god does not try anyone with evil - ".

to show on what shaky footing wt doctrine defenders are, ask the presenters these questions:.

waton

The philosophical debate T B N

The aim of this thread is to get wt followers to look at the nonsensical assertions in their presentations, be it by telephone, person to person and meeting 'parts'

In the talking snake bible story, it is the deity that sets up the trial, to see and try if A&E can be tripped up in temptation.

wt asserts that all evil, even the appearance of carnivores of any kind is the result of our parents falling for the bait that was set up.

Since this James 1;13 'presentation' has been scheduled ad nauseum in perhaps 30 scenes, it is possible, that it is addressed not as a training for their sales people, but to hammer home, that the wt god, the upper elite, does no evil, no matter what is done.

"whether it is reasonable from a human standpoint or not"

evil is good. when gobd does it.

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is The trial of Adam and Eve an evil? resulting in more evil?

by waton in

for months, week by week, wt devotees have been hammered to use just one bible text in 'the ministry',.

james 1:3 " - god does not try anyone with evil - ".

to show on what shaky footing wt doctrine defenders are, ask the presenters these questions:.

waton

For months, week by week, wt devotees have been hammered to use just one bible text in 'the ministry',

James 1:3 " - god does not try anyone with evil - "

to show on what shaky footing wt doctrine defenders are, ask the presenters these questions:

who created the paradise, all the beautiful trees? amazing animals?* --- the deity, yes? --so,

the tree of knowledge, with the death penalty for the whole family, for merely touching it, was a creation of the deity? a trial set up? --- yes?--

Explain to me, how is the suffering that happened in the last 6000 years, to billion of people, because of the degradation for all of us, -- resulting from this trial that our parents failed, not the greatest evil ?

Is all this evil for our good? is this the message of your leaders?

*talking snakes, monkeys, mosquitos, amazing plants, nettles, poison ivy, deadly mushrooms, ---

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

waton

Jesus then spends the next 1881 years preparing a place NCC

what all these bible readers miss is, that Jesus was already in his kingdom in the first century. Colossians 1:13, an colossal oversight.

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No beards...even Jesus! Strange Watchower rule for brothers!

by Witness 007 in

watchtower 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower publications now show jesus with short hair and no beard?

because he is shown that way in older representations of him that are older then the traditional effeminate looking pictures.".

watchtower 1968 p.286 "bible evidence and a recent review shows that jesus did have a beard..." charles russell style of beard was popular at bethel...till rutherford took over.

waton

with the mask still an option/ mandatory, do not miss the chance to be fully bearded and smile at them in glee at the meetings, have the beard and esteem of the team.

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New Religion

by crios in

jw
friends

i need a new religion.

it can't be trinidadian and it must be a christian church.

it's been a while since i've been to the hall (and i'm not interested in returning either) and i need a new religion.

waton

how about an evidence only world view?

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Some Jw's are the worst employees

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i found a company and employed an elder as an underwriter and two ms as sales and marketing.

anyway, this elder will delegate his work to the ms in sales and marketing, so he can go home early.

he knew when he got started that this would be a 10 hour a day job with some saturday.

waton

jws may also not be good tenants J:

beware, be wary particularly of renting to ms' or elders' brood.

they want to get out from papa's supervision, do harm to all, but not to the pa's reputation. having him lose "privilege to serve" and think they are immune,-- what with laws favouring the majority renters, and reluctance from the elder body to have their good name besmirched by exposing wayward offspring,

families showing their true colours. happened to me more than twice.

Jesus said forgive them 7x70 times. yeah, what he meant: dont be stupid, stop it at the outset, or you will regret it for a long time. repeat rent offenders repent rarely. .

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Some Jw's are the worst employees

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i found a company and employed an elder as an underwriter and two ms as sales and marketing.

anyway, this elder will delegate his work to the ms in sales and marketing, so he can go home early.

he knew when he got started that this would be a 10 hour a day job with some saturday.

waton

the level of competence and seriousness about work , forbid excellence, is not there, because kingdom interests is what really matters.

Paul's words: dont sue your brother, let yourself be defrauded instead ! ! wt land in some ways is the closest to first century christianity.

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Start of the Great Tribulation will be announced soon

by joey jojo in

at the 2021 annual meeting, samuel herd revealed new light and claimed the anointed will all have passed away before armageddon.

it has since been revealed that while they will die before armageddon, there will be some anointed still around that will witness the start of the great tribulation.. so the question is, how many years until the existing members of the governing body have passed away?.

im not a doctor, but based on their age and various stages of obesity, im thinking 10- 15 years- give or take, sounds about right.. with that in mind, the great tribulation could be announced any day.. the new understanding has now freed the org from the burden of having to identify a particular generation in relation to the date of armageddon.

waton

blondi, think about it. The 144 000 sealed anointed which wt counts because of their partaking, have to be battle ready at Armageddon, been conscripted for combat not later than the outset of the Great Tribulation,

at the same time they can not be wt's last generation, because "jesus" clearly said, that that generation would die after all the end prophecy details have been fulfilled, have come to pass. so,

wt is totally wrong in calling the last generation the anointed. All people, good, medium and bad, anointed or just abstainers are coexisting anyway, but wt went out on the limb, in their inward looking way, to contradict their reigning king himself.

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Start of the Great Tribulation will be announced soon

by joey jojo in

at the 2021 annual meeting, samuel herd revealed new light and claimed the anointed will all have passed away before armageddon.

it has since been revealed that while they will die before armageddon, there will be some anointed still around that will witness the start of the great tribulation.. so the question is, how many years until the existing members of the governing body have passed away?.

im not a doctor, but based on their age and various stages of obesity, im thinking 10- 15 years- give or take, sounds about right.. with that in mind, the great tribulation could be announced any day.. the new understanding has now freed the org from the burden of having to identify a particular generation in relation to the date of armageddon.

waton

blondie, don't you mean 120 years before the flood, instead of 120 days before the flood? DJ w

Yeah, the ark was not a quick build. Jesus the carpenter still having no power tools must have known that.

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Start of the Great Tribulation will be announced soon

by joey jojo in

at the 2021 annual meeting, samuel herd revealed new light and claimed the anointed will all have passed away before armageddon.

it has since been revealed that while they will die before armageddon, there will be some anointed still around that will witness the start of the great tribulation.. so the question is, how many years until the existing members of the governing body have passed away?.

im not a doctor, but based on their age and various stages of obesity, im thinking 10- 15 years- give or take, sounds about right.. with that in mind, the great tribulation could be announced any day.. the new understanding has now freed the org from the burden of having to identify a particular generation in relation to the date of armageddon.

waton

I wondered when the WTS said that anointed would be alive on earth after Armageddon, how could they blondie

exactly, I believe JJ was mistaken about that. that idea was not a wt doctrine for the last 70 years. curiously

jesus said though, that the tribulation would be cut short, so some flesh of the chosen ones might be saved. he clearly did only speak of the first fulfillment for the anointed, not a latter day anointed generation.