Posts by waton

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

Praise the Lord that we now have since 1914 CE a representative of the Early Church and now a truly Eschatological Church

schjw, are you calling wt inc a truly end time church? a true church ? with errors piled up since 1914 when they proclaimed that they would go to heaven, the world ending? the ancients fiasco in 1925? the "superior authority" mess 1929 ~ 1960 ?

feel sorry for the families that will be laid further astray to add to that 100% failure record including their failed 1914 predictions.

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

Your Church is not the eschatological church foretold in the Bible

sch: wt just pulled in this week's wt study a good one about the end times, (jerusalem and now)

They fear monger families by playing on the unbelieving mates fates when the early end time christians headed for the hills prior to 70 the year of our lord. leaving the unbelievers behind.

things that wt likes to see in the years to come, breaking up more families over the talking snake tale.

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

A similar situation that Jesus confronted in his day sch

There is a big difference between a man turning water into wine, feeding thousands with a snack pack, and have more left over, walking on water, reviving the decaying dead, having the tombs emptied and the dead walk into jerusalem, on and on --- and, in that one coincidental year

the nations slugging it out again, albeit with newer weapons, larger alliances. with a far bigger encore (WWII) to come to eclipse it.

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

The congregation leadership was warned that " it does not belong to you to know time[ing] and seasons, that the father* has put in his own jurisdiction." Acts 1.

the wt leaders just dont get it, in german or stalin-putinesque fashion they have invaded the father's* territory again and again.

For 1914 they promised rapture for themselves and the end of the world for the rest, In 1918 they still proclaimed: "The world has ended, millions now living will never die".

For our days it is still the same false prophecy: " We will go to heaven at the start of that Great Tribulation, and then this world will end. Soon, " not later than 2075.

Because of this divine"off limits, no trespassing" warning, all this discussion about specific dates even here, is futile, so convoluted.

*** note, jesus never used the holy name, the J word, in any personal discussions, or prayers. ---showing another wt waywardness.

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Caleb & Sophia - The Watchtower gets weirder

by Listener in

the latest video release 4/4/22 (lesson 44 'don't give up') in the comic series of caleb & sophia just got weirder.

the plot is about caleb & sophia preaching door to door, caleb with his father and sophia with her mother.

it shows each of them having doors slammed on them four times.

waton

They ask their parents if they can have a break L:

notice wt psychology, a true wt follower, even a child, would not never want to give up, , but just have a brief respite, perhaps with icecream comfort, but never go home or quit for the day.

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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous

by Sea Breeze in

physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.

assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.

this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .

waton

It definitely looks as if light was made specifically to be picked up by our retina. The way it travels as waves and collapses into particles upon observation is particularly astounding.

SB: It has nothing special to do with our retina, there were waves long before retinas. Waves have a way to turn from a gentle rotation, like light, or ocean waves, into particles that hit you hard when they collapse, are absorbed. Wade into the big surf on the beach, and get smacked.

light does not change speed upon reflection, coming or going from a mirror.

there was an ancient belief, that our vision was kind of a radar, we initiated sight by emitting some magical "light" (the biblical beaming eyes, ha ha) and saw only the return message. hope you do not believe a modern version of that error.

not that eyes do not reflect photons, (deers in the high beam) they have a double whammy upon , reflecting, leaving. this doubles the acuity of seeing.

radiation pressure is double upon reflection than absorbing,

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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous

by Sea Breeze in

physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.

assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.

this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .

waton

for the rotating light wave, as seen during its traject, it's travel, arrival is indeed instantaneous. it arrives at the same time it departed, it did not age.

light is forever young. For A. Einstein thinking of surfing the wave of light, the clock on the church tower never turned or advanced. Eerily like James 1 has it: "there is no variation or turning of the shadow "( the sundial) for the eternal deity. but:

that is not true of the observer. Earth orbit has 1000 light seconds diameter btw.

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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous

by Sea Breeze in

physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.

assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.

this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .

waton

In 1676, the Danish astronomer Ole Roemer (1644–1710) became the first person to measure the speed of light. Roemer measured the speed of light by timing eclipses of Jupiter's moon Io.

granted, jupiter is only 400 seconds compared to 4 years away, , the way light travels at c, but still the principles applies, after all, Jupiter and its moons shine in reflected star light the important star, our sun.

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

this is the fundamental rationale for rejecting the New Covenant "for forgiveness of sins" (Mt. 26:27. 28

SB, explain please how the rejection of the blood of the New Covenant as forced by wt on "the other sheep" (not taking the emblems) is related to the ongoing -or already ended- "times of the nations" . thanks.

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Jehovah's Witnesses: remembering the weird and wacky!

by Vanderhoven7 in

do you remember some of the weird and wacky stuff emanating from the watchtower society?

let's make a list from memory that we can use to inject a little humor into our discussions with jehovah's witnesses.

- venus may be an enormous jurassic park.. - germs don't cause disease.. - no beards allowed.

waton

I've always wondered WHY we didn't have a ZERO-FINGER.

NN: well, men at least have a reasonable facsimile. it is the little things that counts. 0, 123