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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

The congregation leadership was warned that " it does not belong to you to know time[ing] and seasons, that the father* has put in his own jurisdiction." Acts 1.

the wt leaders just dont get it, in german or stalin-putinesque fashion they have invaded the father's* territory again and again.

For 1914 they promised rapture for themselves and the end of the world for the rest, In 1918 they still proclaimed: "The world has ended, millions now living will never die".

For our days it is still the same false prophecy: " We will go to heaven at the start of that Great Tribulation, and then this world will end. Soon, " not later than 2075.

Because of this divine"off limits, no trespassing" warning, all this discussion about specific dates even here, is futile, so convoluted.

*** note, jesus never used the holy name, the J word, in any personal discussions, or prayers. ---showing another wt waywardness.

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Caleb & Sophia - The Watchtower gets weirder

by Listener in

the latest video release 4/4/22 (lesson 44 'don't give up') in the comic series of caleb & sophia just got weirder.

the plot is about caleb & sophia preaching door to door, caleb with his father and sophia with her mother.

it shows each of them having doors slammed on them four times.

waton

They ask their parents if they can have a break L:

notice wt psychology, a true wt follower, even a child, would not never want to give up, , but just have a brief respite, perhaps with icecream comfort, but never go home or quit for the day.

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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous

by Sea Breeze in

physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.

assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.

this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .

waton

It definitely looks as if light was made specifically to be picked up by our retina. The way it travels as waves and collapses into particles upon observation is particularly astounding.

SB: It has nothing special to do with our retina, there were waves long before retinas. Waves have a way to turn from a gentle rotation, like light, or ocean waves, into particles that hit you hard when they collapse, are absorbed. Wade into the big surf on the beach, and get smacked.

light does not change speed upon reflection, coming or going from a mirror.

there was an ancient belief, that our vision was kind of a radar, we initiated sight by emitting some magical "light" (the biblical beaming eyes, ha ha) and saw only the return message. hope you do not believe a modern version of that error.

not that eyes do not reflect photons, (deers in the high beam) they have a double whammy upon , reflecting, leaving. this doubles the acuity of seeing.

radiation pressure is double upon reflection than absorbing,

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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous

by Sea Breeze in

physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.

assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.

this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .

waton

for the rotating light wave, as seen during its traject, it's travel, arrival is indeed instantaneous. it arrives at the same time it departed, it did not age.

light is forever young. For A. Einstein thinking of surfing the wave of light, the clock on the church tower never turned or advanced. Eerily like James 1 has it: "there is no variation or turning of the shadow "( the sundial) for the eternal deity. but:

that is not true of the observer. Earth orbit has 1000 light seconds diameter btw.

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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous

by Sea Breeze in

physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.

assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.

this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .

waton

In 1676, the Danish astronomer Ole Roemer (1644–1710) became the first person to measure the speed of light. Roemer measured the speed of light by timing eclipses of Jupiter's moon Io.

granted, jupiter is only 400 seconds compared to 4 years away, , the way light travels at c, but still the principles applies, after all, Jupiter and its moons shine in reflected star light the important star, our sun.

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

this is the fundamental rationale for rejecting the New Covenant "for forgiveness of sins" (Mt. 26:27. 28

SB, explain please how the rejection of the blood of the New Covenant as forced by wt on "the other sheep" (not taking the emblems) is related to the ongoing -or already ended- "times of the nations" . thanks.

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Jehovah's Witnesses: remembering the weird and wacky!

by Vanderhoven7 in

do you remember some of the weird and wacky stuff emanating from the watchtower society?

let's make a list from memory that we can use to inject a little humor into our discussions with jehovah's witnesses.

- venus may be an enormous jurassic park.. - germs don't cause disease.. - no beards allowed.

waton

I've always wondered WHY we didn't have a ZERO-FINGER.

NN: well, men at least have a reasonable facsimile. it is the little things that counts. 0, 123

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

Wt writers' big mistake was to make the 1914 generation the "anointed". Had they stuck with the likeness of the first fulfilment, namely the general public, some of who survived the end [of jerusalem], watchtower could have coasted to 2032 , because there is always a certified 118 year old on the guiness book of records. 1914 + 118 = 2032.

wt anointed on the other hand, have to be ~20 year olds, like Fr. Franz was in 1914. Therefore, wt's "anointing" mistake lopped off 20 years of the generation, which is fine if you gun for a "ssooon" armageddon date. so:

it was the wt's anointing of the 1914 generation that required the overlap grouping. but

The real big, real mistake in the "anointing" is of course that in detail it is absolutely unscriptural.

The bible generation can only pass after all has occurred. The wt generation, the partakers, has to pass before everything serious occurs, to be in heaven to cause the havoc. aka GT.

no wonder they now work on a personal relationship with the deity, because their ever tacking, tacky doctrinal ship is shipwrecked

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

This is a new idea, as far as i am concerned. lnp

Yes, i specialize in new ideas, very profitably. Even a wt "anointed" might discover only retroactively that the event happened in her past. It is after all not the act of partaking (everybody should, as a potential anointed)

The apostles were only potential anointees when they partook!. Church members become anointed (christians) at baptism. anyway,

A truly devoted nearly adult of 20 to 21 years of age could have been legitimately considered her/ himself destined for heaven, and shared Fr. Franz's timeline. so,

2075, 2132 stand.

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

waton

I see Waton posted a possible time line. He likes the perfection of 2075. I think this is too long. I thihk we have a significant change in the next 10 years.
I use Ken Cook as a model

The wt 1914 generation is not only about the GB, as D. Splane stated, but about any of the anointed Class.

any 20 year old that had the anointing potential could have worked with Fr. Franz or the like (as I did) before his death, and still carry on today. She would be only 48 years old today. ( I am nearly twice that age). The potential super centenarian "overlapper" that D. Splane mentioned would be only ~ 100 by 2075,

If wt would revert back to the natural lifespan,generation 1914 + 118 would give them 2132, so

that are the current upper limits, The "soon," last days are" are wt diversions.

Rev 11:18 is the only realistic trigger for a quieter planet. the math is in the missile algorithms.