w7, you lived in luxury how about as a special pioneer ca, 1960, 150 hours a month, 45.- a month wt support, and spending most of the time in a beetle, no aircon in summer, barely any heat in the winter. no fuel gage to remind passenger it is gas up time.
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17I pioneered brothers parked their BMW and got aride in my 20 year old car?? No support.
by Witness 007 inso i pioneered for 10 years in the 1990's it was 90 hours a month with alot of country driving.
i was shocked when brothers and sisters with full time jobs would park their brand new cars and go witnessing in my 20 year old orange datsun.
i was barely living on $250 a week as a yeah...window cleaner.
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5 years ago they were 25, now they hit the BIG 30-----and still single---jw girls.
by pistolpete inexperience from reddit.
i’m in my mid 20’s but i’m noticing alot of sisters that are 35, 40 and just kind of lost.
single, still live at home or heavily dependent on parents because they have measly jobs.
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waton
this is a great topic. wish I could help the lonely hearts.
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Administering a Blood Transfusion When Directed by a Superior- Jehovah's Witness Policy
by Ron.W. inadministering a blood transfusion when directed by a superior - jehovah's witness policy effective june 15th, 2018. while the hospital liasion committee elders were instructed that they may inform doctors and nurses of this decision, this letter was not allowed to be distributed to anyone outside of hlc members.. as a result of the concealment of this letter, and by virtue of the fact that this information was only to be shared verbally with jehovah's witness medical professionals and others, confusion erupted across the united states and in other branch offices of jehovah's witnesses.
countless letters were received at watchtower headquarters in new york from concerned jw nurses, paramedics, and others who were instructed verbally on this new policy, but which contradicted existing written policy that had been in effect for many decades.. in addition to letters from witness medical professionals, circuit overseers in the field wrote to the us branch and hospital information desk in new york about the problems caused by this unreleased policy.
for example, south carolina circuit overseer brandon roberts reported to headquarters that "the majority of the nurses in our circuit were not aware of this updated policy.
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waton
How do JW doctors handle it when in a circumstance where a transfusion is regarded as necessary to be recommended? nbd
have your reluctance to work in that field be known, and pass on the duty to someone who will do it, and collect the income associated with the billing. (just my uninformed thought)
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Watchtower Dishonesty aka Theocratic Warfare
by Vanderhoven7 ini would like to collect as many instances of watchtower dishonesty and pretense as possible.
here is one from a bulgarian as an example of what i'm looking for.. are jehovah's witnesses disfellowshipped for receiving blood in a hospital?.
helge fauskanger writes: "if witnesses can’t convince the elders that they are utterly “repentant” for this vampiric lapse of theirs, they will be held to have disassociated themselves from the religion — even if they never said a word about wanting to leave it!
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waton
any involvement of draft dodging, voting are never disfellowshipping procedures either, always the member is dis- membered after personal decision his/hers yes/or no, stance resigned. re-assigned to the other, satan's side.
not buying the citizenship card in Malawi was personal decision too.
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ENOCH & the Watchtower Society
by Honesty ingenesis 5.
5 so all the days of adam that he lived amounted to nine hundred and thirty years and he died.
8 so all the days of seth amounted to nine hundred and twelve years and he died.
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waton
wt says that others, in ours, the last days (names withheld to protect the innocent), will not be found either, disposed off by angels, like the remains of Jesus.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
still, the great crowd can not be the generation, or overlapping groups of the approved sheep in math 25, who supported Jesus' brothers, and as a reward go off into everlasting life .
why?
jesus said that the generation that sees the terrible end, worse than the deluge, will pass away after the end.!!!
You dont just pass away if you have already entered everlasting life, like the [other] sheep. ergo:
by definition: The last generation are neither the anointed nor the other sheep, and
it certainly did not have to overlap prior to 70 CE.
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Blood Transfusions & Flood, Questions from Bible student only
by Marbles ini was never a jdubb, only a bible student.
there are two main questions i have.
let me preface that by saying that i do not believe the bible is true, or the word of god.
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waton
Since the lifeblood is so central to the sin/atonement idea of religionists,
In the bible story, how did the vegetarians in the pre-flood area like Abel procure the needed sacrificial " choice fatty pieces "? were they just raiding the heaps of dead animals? even cats and dogs did not eat that meat.
Think about the flood, in the ark, one pair each, except 7 of the clean, herbivores all. good, imagine 9 month worth of dog, cat, lion, tiger foods. and the pile of results of their digestion. May be they had a walk on loo grating overhanging the deck.( not shown in pictures), precursor to the pegs for the millions in the desert.
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Blood Transfusions & Flood, Questions from Bible student only
by Marbles ini was never a jdubb, only a bible student.
there are two main questions i have.
let me preface that by saying that i do not believe the bible is true, or the word of god.
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waton
f: JW believe that and personally conclude that on their own.
very few JWs would come to the wt beliefs on their own, they are led carefully into the trap of controlled thinking. It is a circular argument to try to will the truth onto a matter by the delusion of so many. and dont counter with wt's "mental picture" explanation. no high mountain required, can be done in the basement.
coming back to the OP. the "Flood"
Jesus, the son of David, endorsed that event, by making it a parallel to the coming end. As a co-creator of the Universe and its laws and a carpenter, he must have known, that a small family business, using bronze age tool, could not possibly have constructed a vessel this size, Able to carry that full load, withstand for 9 month the immense stresses of rain and currents that swirled, rose at 10 meter an hour for 40 days.
It was time to set the record straight, not dignify a fable with the mantle of scriptural truth, absolute, unquestionable facts. ditto
The Messiah's conversation with Satan, the flat earth advocate, showing all the Earth's mighty kingdoms, far away. on a clear day, from a high mountain. It was time to give satan (and bible readers) a lesson in spherical geometry, dispel the error, the adversary's
false promise based on a fallacious premise. so,
yes wt, like some bible writers will equate their pronouncements with the word coming from god, them being that god, always at the disadvantage of the duped.
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Blood Transfusions & Flood, Questions from Bible student only
by Marbles ini was never a jdubb, only a bible student.
there are two main questions i have.
let me preface that by saying that i do not believe the bible is true, or the word of god.
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waton
f: whether it is fact or fiction.
fair enough, there are aspects to these bible stories that appear to be embellishments. but when discussed as fact, can be seen as the parallel of wt methods, where actions of the leaders are always attributed to , or rendered to the deity, rather than the earthwhile actors.
"jehovah" forgave David, how do we know that? "jehovah" supported the wt, how do we know that.
look at the spectacular accomplishments of the rest of humanity. often done without free labour and tax free status.
substitute " the name " with governing body, wt inc. sounds great.
in Davids case substitute "the holy name" with "the army". sound plausible, barring credible divine testimony for it now.
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Blood Transfusions & Flood, Questions from Bible student only
by Marbles ini was never a jdubb, only a bible student.
there are two main questions i have.
let me preface that by saying that i do not believe the bible is true, or the word of god.
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waton
f:
God who forgave David and allowed Jesus to be tortured and murdered— not the Watchtower.
Accept the fact that theses are stories written by the victors. How can a repeat offender, having the blood (and foreskins) of 10s of thousands on his hands be the shining hero. might makes right.
that is the point: wt claims to be in the same league as that offensive, probably fictional character.